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What a shame, it was just getting good.
if it takes two whole seasons for a show to "just get good" it was a shit show.
A season today is only 8-10 episodes. TNG was legit pretty wonky for the first 20-30 episodes.
Like it wasnt bad, I really like Holly Hunter, and several of the characters were felling really strong in the last few EPs of season 1. But I do worry that the shorter seasons just aren't really conducive to telling Star Trek stories.
A movie might be cool, but it will never happen. And we will have to see what they do with season 2. The show doesn't have too much margin to get worse, like bad writing or directing. Some things about the show, like visual effects and sound effects, like there were just a lot of really bad decisions around it. Nothing that couldn't be fixed tho
What does the amount of episodes per season have to do with anything? The creator knows how many episodes they'll have to deliver and that they need to make it compelling enough to get the S2 renewal. It doesn't matter if you have 8 or 28 episodes to do that.
Additionally, the UK has been able to make very memorable TV shows for decades and they get 6 episodes total.
And what type of excuse is "TNG was legit pretty wonky for the first 20-30 episodes"?? So because that show took a while to get its footing 89 years ago, shows today are also allowed to take a couple years before getting good? Are we just not supposed to expect improvements?
I wholeheartedly agree with the statement "if it takes two whole seasons for a show to “just get good” it was a shit show.". We should have higher expectations.
You seem more invested in criticizing it than trying to enjoy yourself.
I also didn't say the first season was bad, i liked it. Theres stuff to criticize but SAM quickly became a fav character, as the actress is quite good. The episode where they hyperbolic time-chambered her in order to make her emotionally resilient was quite good, sort of an inverse to the Lal episode in TNG.
There was stuff to criticize and maybe you just really didn't like it. Thats fair, opinions about a new star trek show are purely subjective and that is OK. But TV just isnt as good as it used to be, in part because of the shorter seasons, and changes to the industry from streaming. And it wasnt actually that long ago, not for me at least. So idk what to tell ya champ. Starfleet academy was a little rough but that doesn't mean I think a show is allowed to be straight ass for 100 episodes before it gets good. I think star trek shows, the ones we love, weren't perfect either in their first seasons. Ben Sisko was just straight up weird at first, Picard was a total dick. Lieutenant Yar was not a great actress (she was much better when she came back briefly in s3), Whorf's make up looked stupid and bad.
Certain things about the production cycles of shows do change over time. A show can get better writers, the actors can get better in their roles, more viewers mean better budgets and pay. Some shows start out good and then quickly decline. I'd rather have 6 seasons of a show that started out rough but got better after 1-2 seasons, than something that starts good but starts to suck after season 1 and gets canceled in 2-3 seasons.