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The number of negative and/or "just vote for democrats idiot" comments shows how brainwashed and doomed Americans really are.
Nobody's saying that voting for the just a tiny bit slightly less evil party is wrong and you shouldn't do it. What people are saying is that it will solve nothing and lead to no real change. At best it'll result in Americans being ever so slightly less abused on a daily basis. Which is of course better, but still shit. That's the main point.
To most people, it's fine to vote for liars, scumbags, criminals, and pedophiles, as long as they're the least bad available candidates. However, if you're struggling with admitting that they are indeed liars, scumbags, criminals, and pedophiles, and should be at best put in prison, then I'm sorry to say, but there may not be hope for you.
Even if Americans managed to get rid of the entire republican party, and have a government purely made of democrats, it'd still be a far-right government, one of the worst on the planet. Let that sink in. All Americans deserve better. As a matter of fact, all humans deserve a better American government, since it unfortunately impacts us all. But you're not gonna get anything close to a resonably good one by voting. It's just not happening in our lifetimes. Likely not even our children's. If you genuinely wish for a decent life, then you can either leave the country or prepare for mass riots. I know it sucks, but that's the reality Americans - and everybody else - live in.
Choosing not to vote because "both parties bad" empowers the GOP and teaches the Dems to drift right because they keep losing to conservative candidates.
You move the party left by voting in the primaries for the progressive candidates. But you also need to vote for whoever gets nominated, even if they're not progressive enough. Choosing not to vote for the Dems is beneficial to the Republicans, and supports everything that's happening right now.
lmao right, they rigged their primaries against Bernie's leftist populism because they were just too stupid to understand how much people want houses and healthcare, not because they're owned by capitalist oligarchs or anything
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Genocidaires and their symps get no votes, sorry. I do not care if what I do is beneficial to the Republicans over the Democrats because I do not regard them as being meaningfully worse than Democrats in their actions, only in their rhetoric. My actual goal is for my actions to be contrary to the interests of the empire, and voting for Blue MAGA is decidedly not that.
Bernie lost the primaries. They weren't "rigged". Clinton got more votes. I teach at a university, and I don't know how many kids I ran into who talked big game about supporting Sanders, but couldn't be bothered to go to their home districts and actually vote for him.
lol ok Blue MAGA
If you don't vote, it's your fault that we lost
We don't owe you anything
Dems need to pick one
John Fetterman being a perfect example of this dynamic in action
If more of people bothered to fucking vote in the primaries instead of bitching about who was selected, then Fetterman wouldn't be in office.
The hard reality is we have a 2-party system and choosing to not participate doesn't accomplish anything but empower those who least-represent your interests.
fetterman ran as a progressive in his primary
You cannot vote your way out of fascism. You can vote in all the progressive candidates that you want and until they are deemed to not be a threat to the status quo, they will be given no positions of power to threaten the status quo. The reform bullshit lines that they give you only prolongs their existence. They promise you that change is just right around the corner. If only you stick around long enough. Karl Marx talked about these exact same scenarios in 1860 and people are still waiting on fundamental change. In the words of James Baldwin, how much time do you want for your progress?
I am, actually. Signing your name to greenlight internationally-recognized genocide in order to protect your own comfort - in other words, valuing your privilege above the actual lives of thousands of other human beings - is wrong and you shouldn't do it.
If you're told that's the cost to save our nation, or to avoid having to fight a fascist government, or whatever other bullshit Blue MAGA wants to sell you, the correct and moral response is, "That price is too high and I refuse."
I totally understand your sentiment and I believe a very interesting, as well as productive discussion can, and perhaps should, be made on this topic.
Of course, I have no doubts there are many people who'd completely agree with your stance. This was, however, not the main focus of the discussion, which is why I decided to leave it on the side.