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Choosing not to vote because "both parties bad" empowers the GOP and teaches the Dems to drift right because they keep losing to conservative candidates.
You move the party left by voting in the primaries for the progressive candidates. But you also need to vote for whoever gets nominated, even if they're not progressive enough. Choosing not to vote for the Dems is beneficial to the Republicans, and supports everything that's happening right now.
lmao right, they rigged their primaries against Bernie's leftist populism because they were just too stupid to understand how much people want houses and healthcare, not because they're owned by capitalist oligarchs or anything
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Genocidaires and their symps get no votes, sorry. I do not care if what I do is beneficial to the Republicans over the Democrats because I do not regard them as being meaningfully worse than Democrats in their actions, only in their rhetoric. My actual goal is for my actions to be contrary to the interests of the empire, and voting for Blue MAGA is decidedly not that.
Bernie lost the primaries. They weren't "rigged". Clinton got more votes. I teach at a university, and I don't know how many kids I ran into who talked big game about supporting Sanders, but couldn't be bothered to go to their home districts and actually vote for him.
lol ok Blue MAGA
If you don't vote, it's your fault that we lost
We don't owe you anything
Dems need to pick one
John Fetterman being a perfect example of this dynamic in action
If more of people bothered to fucking vote in the primaries instead of bitching about who was selected, then Fetterman wouldn't be in office.
The hard reality is we have a 2-party system and choosing to not participate doesn't accomplish anything but empower those who least-represent your interests.
fetterman ran as a progressive in his primary
The vote blew no matter who crew is who gave us Fetterman. They were willing to overlook his right-wing tendencies so that the blue team could be the fascist running things. The only purpose of the primary is to allow the party significant time to manufacture your approval for their hand selected candidate
You have 2 options in November. Fully-support Trump and the GOP through either voting Republican or not voting at all, or voting for the Dems, who are less-bad and can be changed over time.
If you aren't supporting the Dems at the ballot, you're declaring that you support ICE, the Iran and Venezuelan wars, the blockade of Cuba, the gutting of the administrative state, the suppression of the vote, the removal of Healthcare for millions, the millions of deaths from cuts to USAID, and more.
So either try and slow the bleeding or just put on the fucking red hat.
not voting is not fully supporting trump.
this is a false dichotomy
You act like Schumer doesn't arrange the votes to give ice money and money for epstein war in Iran. He's the chief democrat, that's who you vote for when you vote democrat.
He's up for primary in 2028. Get him then.
nested false dichotomies. awesome. it's false choices all the way down.
Can they though? They were the conservative party before Nixon, and clinton and obama both governmened from the center right. There is no history of the democrats ever being progressive besides a few politicians like Sanders Warren AOC. They never had a progressive party leader.
In hypothetical primary races between AOC and Schumer, polls have shown thay AOC would clean house. And that's what needs to happen. New Yorkers need to fire Schumer in 2028 by selecting a progressive democract.
Yes, but the Democrat party will never do that. Theyd rather lose to a maga Republican than allow a progressive to effect the will of the People.
Interesting how you're using the "Democrat Party" epithet used by conservative influencers and trolls in a thread where a bunch of you are trying to convince people that it's morally superior to not vote at all than to vote for opponents of the GOP.
Their not opponents they're all friends, just like five house reps including one Republican who are against trump, the rest of them are just along for the trump ride and making money off insider trading before trump announcements. Didn't say it was better not to vote, still vote for the lesser of two evils but yeah they're both evil, just one is good about saying nice things about poor people while fucking them
YOU have two options in November. The red fascist or the blue fascist. If you believe that Democrats can be changed over time then why have people been having the same discussions for decades. WEB DuBois was talking about Democrats claiming to be the lesser evil in 1956.
Under Biden ice received the largest increase of federal funding that they have ever received. They recognized Trump's hand-picked president Guiado of Venezuela until they had to negotiate with Venezuela and then they recognized Maduro. So yes, we would be in the exact same situation with Democrats in office.
USAID was always a tool of regime change. The US created the circumstances that they would need aid, then come rushing in to provide the aid with strings attached.
Lesser evil is something that Democrats tell themselves so they can forget that they chose evil
You cannot vote your way out of fascism. You can vote in all the progressive candidates that you want and until they are deemed to not be a threat to the status quo, they will be given no positions of power to threaten the status quo. The reform bullshit lines that they give you only prolongs their existence. They promise you that change is just right around the corner. If only you stick around long enough. Karl Marx talked about these exact same scenarios in 1860 and people are still waiting on fundamental change. In the words of James Baldwin, how much time do you want for your progress?