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[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'll support gun control when the laws are not written by complete idiots whose only idea of doing anything to stop gun violence is giving a bajilion dollars to the pigs (who kill at a 33x ratio over mass shootings, btw) and banning guns over random ass ergonomic features or because they "look scary" so some random ass suburban white woman can feel safe while the government refuses to address poverty and crime in a meaningful way.

Anyway, remember what the bearded commie man said.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Who you gonna shoot to fix this situation? Seriously, though. What person needs bullets in their body so that your worker rights are protected? I want names.

[–] Ravell@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

Trump would be a good start. Hegseth. Literally any ICE agent. Vance. Peter Theil. There are plenty of targets.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You do, actually. Armed protests don't get attacked or tear gassed by police. Also, look up the battle of Blair Mountain.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Where I live, when police think there might be firearms, there are police snipers. Armed protested don't get tear gassed, they get shot.

You can't be armed all the time. How many Black Panthers died in their sleep, again? When you take up violent means, you invite violent means. (No disrespect intended. Black power.)

Your guns cannot protect you from tyranny or even from another asshole with another gun. They are serving as a psychological security blanket against an intolerably overbearing power imbalance. The only thing we have that can match the power of the state is collectivism.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And that's a justification for rolling over and doing nothing? In the US, armed protests don't usually get messed with because open carry isn't illegal everywhere. Hell, Ronnie Reagan banned open carry in California exactly because the Black Panthers were copwatching with guns and the kkkops didn't like it.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

And that’s a justification for rolling over and doing nothing?

If that is your reading of my comment, then I'm not interested in trying to correct you.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When you take up violent means, you invite violent means.

They're already shooting us, armed and unarmed alike.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That doesn't even attempt to address my point. You're not saying that taking up violent means wouldn't make the problems you bring up even worse. You need to say that part. So I can show that you are wrong.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm addressing the part with which I disagree. The violence is here whether we literally fight back or not.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

But you're not disagreeing. Tell me what you disagree with about my statement: When you take up violent means, you invite violent means. Aren't you using the state's violence as an invitation to reply with violence?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The need for an invitation. It's going to escalate from here no matter what.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You're reading that in. I never said violence has to be invited, just because it can be. I did not say something like, "if you never invite it you never suffer it." You're disagreeing with something that was never said.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

So you don't think the Black Panthers invited violence, or the protesters at Blair Mountain invited violence - they were responding to the state's invitation?

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The laws will always be written by idiots. Politics pulls for weak minds. While you stubbornly wait, it's those in poverty that are the ones getting killed by gun violence.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, now show me one gun law made in the last 26 years that wasn't made with the explicit idea to only protect liberal white suburbans while at the same time giving exemptions to cops and ex-cops as if they don't abuse their wives at a 40% rate.

Motivations aside, I'm not aware of a whole lot of very good American gun control laws at all. That's the issue.