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[–] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Comics like this are just preaching to the choir, and only the ones so fervent they're blinded by their own self righteousness. It's so obviously cherry picked and slanted if you've looked into the issues at play. It shows no respect for the reader at all, and likely only hardens the opinions of those it disagrees with.

You can't convince anyone of anything with this kind of trollish virtue signal. It only exists to get the author pats on the back from people in their own camp.

This kind of shitty rhetoric harms the cause. You can't win hearts and minds with blatant disrespect.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Why all the side issues. Is it true, or not?

If it is true, and I believe that it is, it may explain why you are triggered?

[–] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I think it's lying to try to get people to do a good thing.

Deception destroys credibility.

And it makes fun of people who disagree with it.

It alienates, not converts.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Ok, then what is the truth?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I see no disrespect. I see a good and valid point being made that a huge amount of Americans are oblivious to the obvious.

[–] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Do you really think that dismissively talking down to people telling them they're delusional is the best way or even a way to win hearts and minds?

[–] Gathorall@lemmy.world -2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

That is a cherry picked statistic. It is blatant propaganda.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Explain which bit is cherry picked and why? Is it disputed that the US has very high gun ownership and very high gun deaths when compared to other first world countries?

[–] Gathorall@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It doesn't include countries with high gun ownership and low deaths. Gun ownership doesn't actually necessarily correlate with gun violence. USA is a violent country for various other reasons.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I did a bit of research myself. A few Nordic countries, and New Zealand, have high gun ownership and low gun death rates.

It seems that the difference is that these countries have very high gun regulations, strict purchase and permit laws and restrictions on storage. I'm not an American, but in truth, is this the case in the US? For instance, none of these countries permit handgun open carry. In Australia owning a handgun at all is next to impossible (almost) and the requirements hardly make it worthwhile for target shooters.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You're totally right

What's missing here are all the counties where guns are prohibited, period, and where basically there are no gun deaths because doh.

It's easy to just throw this as "cherry picked" but it's a basic fact that the US has ab insane amount of gun violence whereas counties with strict gun laws have little gun violence and countries with extremely strict gun laws have practically no gun violence because there aren't any guns to use to begin with

You bad guns, you ban gun violence, period

The mental health issue that is constantly brought up is a separate issue that should of course also be fixed, it's just that the US thinks it's a good idea to have extremely bad mental health support mixed with free guns when you open up a bank account.

[–] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Do you care that people are dead, or that guns were used to kill them? Is it okay to do mass murder by bomb or truck?

If you care about deaths, then you make a chart about deaths. If you care about guns, you make a chart about guns.

This is a chart about guns.