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I know. I was just talking about the amount of data that is available that is hard to reproduce in the FOSS world.
but it might have sounded like you separated these two; the point of the commenter above, i believe, was that google maps and waze now share the same data. i do believe that getting all these contributors and keeping them is the reason why google didn't kill the waze already but is just slow-crippling it instead.
some volunteers might be happy to contribute data to waze, while they might not be as happy to do the same for google.
i do agree with your point about certain amount of data needed for the crowd-sourced functions to be useful.
How exactly are they crippling Waze?
It's much better for input & feedback than Maps.
You can give verbal reports by phone or Android Auto/Car Play. Can give more variety of reports, eg: potholes, blocked lane, road kill. And it gives a very accurate countdown timer for how long you're stuck in traffic. Waze is the superior app.. IMHO.