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[–] ell1e@leminal.space 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Basically, on any sane window manager no matter if Wayland or X11, you'll get the same frame for all apps for free.

From all the big desktops it's only GNOME that somehow decided server-side decorations weren't a good idea implement, and now all Wayland apps have to hand-roll a hacky workaround. The "flat frameless window" look was Electron's GNOME workaround. What the article is describing is a more elaborate GNOME workaround. On e.g. KDE, none of these problems existed in the first place.

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's only mostly true and more importantly not what this is about. Yes Gnome and Mutter don't support server side decorations. But Electron on Linux uses GTK to construct the application window. And GTK offers client side system styled window decorations. Meaning that electron applications aleady supported decorations that look and feel like server side decorations even if they are not.

Electron already had some support for client-side decorations, provided by a class called ClientFrameViewLinux which uses GTK to paint convincing native window frames. These look very similar to the ones GNOME used to supply on X11, but they are produced entirely in-framework.

No, the problem is with custom styled window decorations. Developers who wanted to do CSDs couldn't without major downsides. And that was also true on KDE Plasma, as evidenced by this screenshot from the article you evidently didn't read

See how the window for VS Code doesn't throw a shadow compared to Dolphin? That's because electron didn't support CSDs properly. And now that it does the window looks like this:

That's what we are talking about.

[–] ell1e@leminal.space 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I appreciate the clarification! However, 1. the original comment seemed to be talking about a simple uncustomized frame not looking correct, which sounds like the GNOME problem. And 2. the article still seems to imply Wayland means no SSD, as far as I can tell, which to my knowledge as a general statement isn't true.

Therefore, I apologize for misreading the main intention of the article, but I think there are multiple reasons why people might misread it. Perhaps some clarifications could help?

[–] Breezy@sopuli.xyz 1 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, what Vittelius mentioned is correct, it's more that I don't like how most Electron apps on Linux look due to the lack of CSD, causing that flat shadowless look in the screenshot with VS Code next to Dolphin. So, if anything here's to hoping more devs will test their Electron apps on Linux Desktop Environments/windowing systems to make their apps look more native in these environments. But I do appreciate the clarification on SSD, it's nice for me to finally learn the terminology used to describe why I find most Electron apps on Linux to look janky.