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[–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't think mandating lidar specifically by name is right, seeing as computer vision is definitely a software problem. Instead they should mandate some method to detect objects in any light condition + a performance standard, which in practice during certification could mean lidar. Regulations should be as minimal and specific as possible.

[–] GenderNeutralBro 25 points 2 years ago

Good point. Mandate the ends rather than the means. If they get better functionality with some new tech in a few years, we don't want outdated regulations holding the industry back.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

computer vision is definitely a software problem.

No, it isn't.

If it were only software, don't you think Tesla should be the best of them all, being the pure software shop they are?

But it is a real world problem. Recognizing real objects in real world conditions like weather, natural and artificial lights, temperatures (want some ice on your camera?), winds & storms, all kinds of unforeseen circumstances, other bad drivers, police and firemen...

And that's why that pure software shop is so bad at it, while all the real carmakers shrug... they are used to it since forever.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You can be the best in the world and still not be good enough.

Driving a car around using a dozen cameras pointing in every direction isn't something that's fundamentally impossible. We just can't do it yet.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And don't forget vision is what humans use for navigation as well.

[–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

And a lot of them are not good at it

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can be the best in the world and still not be good enough

So you haven't recognized that other car brands' assistance/autonomous systems make less dramatic mistakes?

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Literally a different thread about someone dieing from a Cruize self driving car not moving over for an ambulance.