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Exclusive: US to send depleted-uranium munitions to Ukraine
(www.reuters.com)
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The problem is that it's a heavy metal poison not that it's radioactive.
the problem is both but the heavy metal is worse.
And lead, famously, isn't a heavy metal. And neither is copper (used for jacks)
No no Ukraine is only allowed to eject invaders with the most pure tungsten rounds.
These decisions are being made by people who will not be having children with birth defects because of them
You understand that Ukrainians live in Ukraine and poisoning their children is bad
I can't believe you are seriously arguing our "do not poison Ukrainian children" policy is evidence we do not care about Ukraine
Ask them whether a miniscule chance of light poisoning is preferable to getting abducted.
Or, as happened just recently in Germany, thrown down a bridge.
If you have another idea of how to get Russians to GTFO of Ukraine go ahead, present it at the UN, get your peace nobel price. In the mean time, STFU when people are defending themselves against an imperialist aggressor.
Accept the peace offer and set the new border of Ukraine such that the Russian-speaking people whom the state-armed militias were shelling before the invasion are all on the Russian side.
Then there will no longer be people the Ukrainians regard as Russians in Ukraine.
The last years of the Donetsk conflict have seen double-digits civilian casualties. There were about 2000 in the first year, then there was exponential decline.
Have you compared recent pictures of Donetsk with Mariopol or Bakhmut? I'll give you a hint: One is still standing. If Ukraine wanted to it could easily flatten Donetsk, it's in artillery range. A million Russian-speaking inhabitants, if Ukrainians are so genocidal why don't they just go for it?
Russia killed more civilians in the first months of the 2022 invasion that died overall in Donetsk and Luhansk since 2014. A fuckton of those Russian-speaking (like in e.g. Mariopol). Russia abducted more children than died in the "people's republics".
In other words: Shut the fuck up with your "Ukraine is shelling Russian-speaking Ukrainians" bullshit. Either you're severely misinformed, or a straight-up Putin bot.
And with that in mind: Do you seriously think that the proper way to react to an invasion, an invasion which comes with near uncountable human rights abuses and disregard for the civilian population, to react to that with "Oh, since you're asking so nicely Russia, here, have a cookie"? No. Fuck that, fuck you, and fuck everything you believe in.
You really shouldn't uncritically accept anything Ukraine or Russia says about the war. Of course they're going to say the other side is targeting civilians while we only attack valid military targets. Don't you remember Libya? Iraq? Afghanistan? Bosnia? We know how the news operates in these situations.
This is misframing refugees fleeing into Russia as abduction. These aren't moustache-twirling villains.
Yes: We have plenty of reports about shit that people did. And we have the same now.
a) UN. b) Have you watched the Russian state TV shows where they parade them? If you know anything about body language they were screaming "The fuck why do I have to say this vile shit they put in my mouth I want out of here".
Indeed not, but only because Putin doesn't have a beard.
Why are you defending a genocidal regime? It's hitting all five points of the UN genocide convention, one would suffice.
on what medical basis are you rejecting the established medical position on the severity of heavy metal poisoning.
You didn't read the article did you. Hint: Look for the IAEA quote.
No you’re right our brave mujahideen fighters in Ukraine deserve the right to have their conscripts poison and maim their own children. They’ve got the uranium bullets and cluster bombs, but surely we’ve got some agent orange around here we can spare.
had trouble spelling Russia, did ya? your brain isn't worth saving. cringey reddit /r/worldnews phrases can fuck off forever into the pit.
edited because i realized i wasn't on hexbear. so yea, ^that^ is the more polite version.
thank you for your service, cummunism
We all feel for you. Must suck to start a war and then lose it.
Ooc, Why do you think Russia invaded?
Easy: they think they are a superpower and that they can use their military to keep independent, neighbouring countries aligned with them politically in order to protect their geopolitical interests. They are not and they can't.
And when you day "aligned geopoliticaly" what's that exactly?
It means that government in a given country will side with Russia on international scene in order to protect their interests. Isn't that obvious? Like Hungary is politically aligned with Russia but Germany isn't.
"Orcs"
Ew.
Do you think these rounds just magically disappear after they're used? They're going to continue to litter the land and cause generations of people completely uninvolved in the conflict to suffer from birth defects, lung damage, and cancer, as can be seen after its use in Iraq. No one is immune to depleted uranium. At this point you can just admit that you care more about killing Russians than you do defending Ukraine, consequences be damned.
I hope some U238 finds its way into your lungs, fascist scum.
It's only a hazard if you are handling it all the time, or you hang out around old targets where there is a fuck ton of uranium dust just waiting to get stirred up. If it gets in your lungs, you are not going to be a happy camper after a few years. Even so, depleted uranium emits alpha particles which is the weakest form of radiation.
I don't deny the fact that uranium dust is bad. The reasons why it is bad are usually left out of the all the articles that hate on it for the wrong reasons.
Hell, here in Colorado we have more issues with radon. As far as uranium is concerned, there are problems with rainwater runoff concentrating it from the old mines that we have, but that is about it. Of course that isn't good, but it takes massive tailings piles from old mines to cause issues for groundwater and such.