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[-] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 11 months ago

The last one is utterly jaw-dropping, not necessarily because I'm surprised Churchill said it, but how this sentiment has hardly suffered a dent in the contemporary "western" zeitgeist.

Replace a few words, trade "Aryan" for "European", "civilized" for "developed", and "barbaric" for "authoritarian"... boom, you've got a chart-topping WaPo OpEd.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago

it's also pure 100% undiluted projection.

nations become more powerful they will get more ruthless, and the time will come when the world will impatiently bear the existence of great barbaric nations who may at any time arm themselves and menace civilized nations

the west is the one that's done all that and keeps doing it.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

All i could think of reading that section was nuke

[-] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 11 months ago

Reminds me of how white Americans say they "don't want to be a minority in their own country." It's guilty projection. They just assume anyone in their position would act as beastly as they have.

[-] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 11 months ago

that is very interesting, the though that they internalized that though so much thay they are afraid other people are like then.

i saw a person saying once that most west science fiction is about alien invasion, beings from far away with technology beyond our comprehension to massacre us to steal our resources, they project themselves into their stories, the colonizing monster.

while soviet scifi the aliens are communists, they surpassed many contradictions from their society, them they go roaming the universe help other races in surpassing those contradictions.

[-] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Yep. The guilt is buried deep but it festers and finds its way back to the surface.

[-] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago

good to find a like minded person, i was just thinking something like that, that democracy x authoritarian is just rebranded colonial thinking, you paint a target in a country to justify intervening in it

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