Saying "This isn't racist because it is based off of a similar meme that originated in China" has big "I can't be racist when I say the N-word because I have a black friend." energy.
It's less that and more "ohh, it's fine when they say it, but when I say it, it's racist" which isn't reasonable in the first place for the n-word, but doubly so in this case since we know there's a lot of racism going around in the HK independence "movement."
Daily reminder HKs minimum wage is 1 dollar for servants and 5 dollars per hour for workers, they have the highest rent in the entire world yet some of the worst living conditions and historically have only had 49% of there parliment able to be elected, the other 51% is 8 western buisnessmen.
HK separtists advocate for the above because they are the lucky enough ones to be above the slave class and they want this relationship to continue, and for things to remain the same rather than for things to get better via intergation with china, which would give the HK working and underclass access to cheap housing via mainland China, who have 90% house ownership rate vs HKs like 17%.
Source;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_domestic_helpers_in_Hong_Kong
Does that mean the entire Parliament in HK is just 15 people?
Nah, they basically split there highest democratic chamber into two, with one half being elected and the other half appointed unelected people to represent UK buisness interests, they have a majority over the elected half.
Also to clarify the small minority of the other half have more voting power than all of the other elected members, to effectively give them a majority.
HK has essentially been a autocratic imprealist state serving the bougie of HK and UK interests since it changed hands to the UK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_development_in_Hong_Kong#Under_British_rule
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Council_of_Hong_Kong
As you can see here, they 'permitted' HK residents to elect half of the people in the chamber, with them (the UK) retaining control of the other half (while still retaining the deciding vote) and that China actually offers them full democracy, unconditionally.
The founding members of what is reffered too in HK as 'ExCo' (with the other chamber usually its 'LegCo')
No, it's worse than that. It's "I can say the n-word because Black people say the n-word."
I challenged this notion with a lib the other day.
The watermelon originated in Africa. That doesn't mean that the vile caricaturised depictions of black people eating watermelons is somehow not inherently racist.
You can also look to the origin and continuing usage of the swastika, especially in Asian cultures, as another example here - you aren't going to tell me that the right-angled unicode swastika being used by westerners on the internet isn't done in service of fascism 99% of the time.
And on that matter, don't let erm-ackshually dorks tell you that the 90 degree swastika wasn't used by Nazis and isn't representative of them. One of the most famous depictions of the Nazi swastika is a right angled one:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1214749781387436032/pu/vid/450x360/o0Nxlts0lffM8lUv.mp4
The libs downvoting this post en masse 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm on hexbear so I can't see the downvotes lmao 🤣
I just see the overall score
It's got 97 up and 50 down rn
This is why disabling downvotes is good. Make those cowards show themselves.
Racists who know enough not to talk openly shouldn't be able to passively influence discussion either.
I was somewhat against removing downvotes when we initially did that, but wow was I wrong. Terrible reddit-tier feature that needs to be trashed.
Don't worry! Downvotes are only for flagging content that doesn't belong here. It will never be used as an "I disagree" button.
This is also why we at Reddit don't have a report button, because the free marketplace of ideas will naturally sort out posts and comments that are appropriate. Wait, I'm receiving a new update, you DO HAVE A BUTTON TO REPO—
Lots of people to mark down in the pro-racism collumn.
for background info, the chinese government does not ban the actual associate of winnie pooh to xin unless it is used to promote racism contrary to the claim by the red fascist tankiejerkers, liberal sloganists, and the NATO-backed hong kong rioters by young students who never know about the period before the return of hong kong to chinese rule. The liberal sloganists justify the racist act on the claim that it is directed towards an oppressive dictator, but they cannot explain why they attack a 'tyrant' for their chinese ethnicity and appearance instead of their morality. For more suspicions, the winnie pooh association of Xi Ping in chinese hate crime propaganda are from people who contradict their hong kong independence slogan with return to british colonial rule and who believe that british immigrants are the only true 'hong kongers'.
These colonial worshipping kids have been kneeling so long that they've forgotten how to stand.
Their beloved 'prime minister' Churchill has quotes that wouldn't feel out of place in Hitler's collection:
“I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion”
[the Pashuns] needs to “recognise the superiority of race”
“I hate people with slit eyes and pigtails. I don’t like the look of them or the smell of them — but I suppose it does no great harm to have a look at them.”
We shall have to take the Chinese in hand and regulate them… as civilised nations become more powerful they will get more ruthless, and the time will come when the world will impatiently bear the existence of great barbaric nations who may at any time arm themselves and menace civilized nations. I believe in the ultimate partition of China—I mean ultimate. I hope we shall not have to do it in our day. The Aryan stock is bound to triumph.
The last one still rings true with the "just the government not the people" libs nowadays.
The last one is utterly jaw-dropping, not necessarily because I'm surprised Churchill said it, but how this sentiment has hardly suffered a dent in the contemporary "western" zeitgeist.
Replace a few words, trade "Aryan" for "European", "civilized" for "developed", and "barbaric" for "authoritarian"... boom, you've got a chart-topping WaPo OpEd.
it's also pure 100% undiluted projection.
nations become more powerful they will get more ruthless, and the time will come when the world will impatiently bear the existence of great barbaric nations who may at any time arm themselves and menace civilized nations
the west is the one that's done all that and keeps doing it.
It's the same as those homophobic memes of Putin in makeup or kissing Trump, "bigotry is fine if it's used against someone I don't like"
Exactly. Sometimes people will defend it with some supposed high-minded origin, like "it's not saying being gay is wrong, it's using trump's homophobia and insecurity against him and turning it into a vulnerability that we're using to trigger him". And maybe some of the people repeating it actually believe that, but the images don't come with a paragraph explaining the nuance. They're just supposed to be an easy shot at trump, you're supposed to laugh and keep scrolling. Most people liking or sharing them aren't thinking about it any more than "haha, he's owned cause he's gay".
You can spend all day convincing yourself that your specific way of thinking about it isn't racist/homophobic, but when you share this shit online all that stuff stays in your head, and you're just spreading bigotry.
also depicting Xi Jinping as Winnie the Pooh isn't banned in China because it personally offended him and he's like a petty tyrant king. It's because misrepresenting the government is illegal and they take that seriously. Maybe from my stupid western perspective it's going a little too far, but also China wouldn't tolerate something like a Qanon movement, or orther wild ass conspiracy theories, so at least they have that going on.
The "Xi got butthurt and banned all of Winnie the Pooh in China" thing is mind numbingly easy to disprove. Just search the phrase on literally any Chinese internet service. If they still spout that claim, they've obviously not done even one minute of research or fact checking and are so clearly just blindly regurgitating propaganda (which they also accuse people who support China of doing, funny how that works) that all of their opinions on China can be safely ignored.
You know what I did when I first heard that claim? I went straight to Baidu and searched up Winnie the Pooh, in English even, and surprise surprise it returned results like any other search engine. And this was when I was still a liberal who didn't like China.
"Yeah guys I'm totally not racist, I just think those dirty yellow ching-chongs are ugly and inferior to our superior white race and we should nuke all those subhumans to make way for more lebensraum for the white race !1!!1111!!1!111"
Anti-Asian Racism
A liberal once made an anti-CPC song with the lyrics "They say ching chang chong and oppress Hong Kong"
That sounds like something I would have found funny back when I was an idiot eleven-year-old.
The image that was part of one of the communities in the shit just works Lemmy is just a straight up racial caricature and somehow people still defended it...
-burguer liberals using a dumb, fat foodie as an insult
-they don't see the irony
pottery
I always thought it was because xi Jinping is a fat fucking moron who actually looks like whinny the Pooh's genocidal twin. It never occurred to me that it might be a race thing.
okay, lemmy user Colour_me_triggered
lol he's FAT and STUPID too!!!! XD 🤣 😂
Peak liberal critique and humor.
least racist liberal
Death to America
cite a real source for this "genocide", lib
Huh, never even thought about him being yellow, I always thought the joke was he was fat and stubby (and I guess oh-so-cuddly)?
Plus it's not a good meme so much as he Streisand Effect'd the shit out of it. Like, the shiiiiit out of it...
Good memes, bad memes, unite towards a united front.
