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Nah man incels are just losers and Tate is just the same. I talk to my male friends all the time about difficulties I'm having I don't need to blame women for them. We haven't created s growing social underclass of men, some men are just bitching and thinking this is targetted when everyone is struggling.
This reaks of manosphere bullshit.
Oh yeah, they absolutely are losers and the manosphere is not to be trusted. Incel, red pill, MGTOW, etc rhetoric is dangerous.
Some don't even have that support group.
I don't think brushing away the issue like this is particularly helpful. It's a statistical truth that men are over-represented in a long list of bad settings, from victims of violence, to drug abuse, suicide, homelessness, unemployment etc. Additionally, the past ≈30 years there has been a trend of a decreasing proportion of men having several partners throughout their life, and an increasing proportion of men never finding a long-time partner. And men are to a larger and larger degree under-performing in education compared to women.
Furthermore, like you say: Everyone is struggling. The struggling disproportionally is disproportionally difficult to handle for those that are over-represented in the statistics mentioned above.
I definitely think we have a societal issue where certain men are being marginalised, or at least put in a position where it is understandable that they feel marginalised. We know very well that humans in general, when they feel pushed into a corner, tend to lash out in some way.
What I'm saying doesn't defend their actions, but provides an explanatory model for why they are acting the way they are. Because if nothing else, we as a society need to do something about the increasing number of men acting that way.
This does not serve as an explanation for why these people are acting as losers, or what we can do about it, and is thus not a very constructive standpoint to take.