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Hertz put a first-time EV driver in a Tesla that was half dead, then tried to hold her financially accountable for getting stranded on the side of the road.


Now that EVs are filling out rental fleets around the U.S., drivers are going through an adjustment period full of hazards and inconveniences. A mother and daughter from Gurnee, Illinois, became trapped inside of a Tesla from Hertz, which the company rented out to them in lieu of an ICE-equipped sedan the woman had reserved in advance. After the dead Tesla stranded them, Hertz tried to put the woman on a do-not-rent list, despite being responsible for much of the trouble, as the woman tells CBS News.

When Becky Liebau and her daughter arrived to the Hertz counter, they were told the only car left on the rental lot was a Tesla. Liebau had never driven an EV; she had booked a reservation for a gas-powered car, but rental companies are notorious for taking reservations though not holding onto them. According to Liebau, this was around closing time and she had no other choice but to take the Tesla, which appears to have been a Model 3 based on the CBS report:

Disaster ensued for the mother and daughter, who had booked the trip to scope out prospective colleges for the 16-year old scholar. We could easily say this was due to driver error, but it’s not that simple. User error figures into the problems that left the woman and teenager stranded, but the onus rests on Hertz now that it’s bolstered its rental fleet with over 50,000 EVs. Especially when dealing with first-time EV drivers like Liebau.

And it’s not like it was for lack of trying on the part of the mother and daughter. Liebau says her daughter tried getting up to speed on the Tesla EV, going on the internet to learn how to to operate the fully-electric car.

Hertz had given the pair an EV that was reportedly under 50 percent state of charge. The Tesla showed approximately 90 miles of range left, which may have been enough to get Liebau and her daughter to a charger. Hertz, however, did not provide them with an adapter to use charging stations that don’t conform to Tesla’s charging standard. Hertz later suggested these adapters are often targeted by thieves. It’s hard to see why that matters, or why Hertz would mention this — other than to suggest it was acting in its own best interest.

The Tesla’s tires were also low on air and would have benefitted from a top up. What Hertz basically did was hand Liebau the keys to a less than half-charged EV with low tire pressure and a missing adapter for use at nearby chargers. The Tesla went dead as Liebau searched for a charging station, trapping the two inside the cabin. Liebau and her daughter had no idea how to get out of the dead EV, and their phones were running out of battery, too. Again, that’s user error, but no one at Hertz explained the proper procedures to Liebau.

No roadside assistance came from Hertz. The two were eventually towed by a driver they had tracked down on their own, who taught them to override the electric door locks. They were taken to a hotel nearby, and had to pay one of the maintenance workers there for a ride across the state.

Presumably, back to their home. A hefty bill was waiting for them, as Hertz tried to pin the blame on Liebau. She refused to pay the invoices, and the company put her on a do-not-rent list. Hertz only happened to reverse course after CBS investigators reached out to the company. CBS says that Hertz has now refunded all charges and has reimbursed Liebau for the expenses she incurred.


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[-] Uprise42@artemis.camp 108 points 1 year ago

Hertz shouldn’t have gone with Tesla for EV’s. People not driving EV’s and are renting want something as similar to their current car as possible. Both my leaf, and my current Kia Niro operate mostly like an ICE. The torque is different. The acceleration is different. But the biggest difference is the shifter and that is still simple enough that you could figure it out in about 30 seconds. Other than that it’s a normal car. Anyone can get in and drive it. They don’t need to worry about figuring out the touch screen crap or how to turn on windshield wipers like a lot of people need to figure out with Teslas. Tesla’s used to be the pinnacle of EV’s but now they’re cheaply made, over teched out garbage.

[-] ramirezmike@programming.dev 56 points 1 year ago

I'm probably at least average intelligence and rented a tesla recently because it was what was available. I've never driven one before and was so frustrated with the experience.

As a renter, you only have the key fob which has a really vague drawing of how to use it that only makes sense after you figure it out. I had no idea you had to press it against the door column to lock/unlock it. How is that intuitive? why wouldn't it be against the handle?

Had to sit and watch YouTube videos in the car to figure out how to do everything. It was really unclear how to easily turn off the car and the only way I could figure it out was diving into the settings menu to find a shutdown button, only to accidentally turn it on again as I'm leaving.

The manual door release is designed to be discreet! THE MANUAL DOOR RELEASE IS DESIGNED TO BE DISCREET!

Like, I get it that a person who buys the Tesla will take the time to learn it, but it's a terrible rental experience. Especially when a lot of the tutorials are catered toward people who have the car tied to their phone, which you can't do as a renter.

I wouldn't say the women in the article are blameless, but it's definitely not "adjust the mirrors and you're good to go" like every other rental I've had.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The more I learn about those cars, the more I'm convinced that no thought at all went into their design beyond "hey that's cool" (if even that, it probably was more along the lines of "hey, that's cheap").

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

I still don't really see what's cool about it other than: it goes really fast when your battery is charged. I guess some people are blinded by the big screen, but the whole interior looks like a concept car that was never ment to be released that way. It's all cheap tricks an gimmicks

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I would say that a basic safety feature that is specifically designed to be hidden from public View, is incompetence in engineering.

[-] ElectricCattleman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, almost all safety features in cars are hidden. Airbags barely have labels.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Are you technology connections? Lol.

[-] Uprise42@artemis.camp 16 points 1 year ago

I’ve never even heard of him until you commented so I don’t know if that’s a compliment or not lol. A quick google doesn’t tell me much

[-] thanevim@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

I would personally take it as a compliment. But then, I like the guy's rants and deep dives into tech. Your mileage (heh) may vary

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

He goes on short eloquent rants about bad "technology".

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

And sometimes he explains how they're "connected".

[-] na_th_an@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Often through the magic of buying two of them.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Technology Connections is a YouTube channel hosted by a guy who explains various electronic gadgets, new and old. He had a series on analog TVs, he's talked about VCR's both VHS and Beta, (fun fact, beta failed because it was objectively worse) he had an episode on auto turn signals, and even an ancient juke box. It's worth checking out.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

I really enjoy his stuff. He's a well-educated, practical down-to-earth technology nerd.

[-] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

This is why i love lemmy, fucking nerds ❤️❤️❤️

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

TC is in the Midwest

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