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Federated services have always had privacy issues but I expected Lemmy would have the fewest, but it's visibly worse for privacy than even Reddit.

  • Deleted comments remain on the server but hidden to non-admins, the username remains visible
  • Deleted account usernames remain visible too
  • Anything remains visible on federated servers!
  • When you delete your account, media does not get deleted on any server
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[-] rubywingedflier@possumpat.io 41 points 1 year ago

I understand the impulse but the way some people get so hung up on trying to make a way to permanently and universally delete posts made on public facing social media and framing it as a "privacy" issue feels kinda like saying something you regret on mic at a town hall and being mad that you can't permanently delete the memory of it from the minds of everyone present, and claiming that they violated your privacy by remembering it

[-] mythmon@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

it's an interesting idea, but it doesn't vibe with the reality of the laws in the EU which has "right to be forgotten" rules

[-] thundermoose@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

GDPR applies to companies operating in the EU, not every single entity on the internet. Posts on random forums are not subject to these laws, so I don't think Lemmy would count.

Now if a Lemmy operator began using user personal data for profit, then GDPR would apply. At the moment, I don't think that's happening anywhere in the fediverse.

[-] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

GDPR applies to companies operating in the EU, not every single entity on the internet

It applies to every single public entity on the internet that holds data of EU citizens. No matter which country they're located in.
AFAIK, this world-wide nature of the GDPR is pretty unique and quite contentious.

The GDPR includes exceptions for private purposes but hosting a lemmy instance with public signups is most certainly not intended to be of private nature, so the GDPR does apply.

I can't comment on whether that means the right to be forgotten needs to be exercised by federated instances, I just want to set the record straight here.

[-] fluffy_birb_01@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

The EU may claim GDPR applies to all data of EU citizens no matter where in the world it is stored, but if the entity storing that data does zero business in the EU, there isn't much that can be done to enforce that law. Its the same as US law firms thinking their DMCA claims apply in other countries, etc.

Federated Lemmy instances operating in non-EU nations with no business/holdings/etc in the EU, are under zero obligation to recognise GDPR requirements unless otherwise required somehow to do so by their own national law (say a treaty agreement or the like).

The EU can no more demand or enforce global adherence to their data laws than the US can.

[-] PlasmaK@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

They can just block access to the site, no?

[-] fluffy_birb_01@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Sure, but a VPN solves that handily. It's not really a big deal.

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