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Dealing with the billionaire problem should be everyone’s top priority
There's no solving climate change until we've solved billionaires.
Nah, buying a Tesla, a Porsche Taycan or a Volvo XC90 hybrid will solve the climate crisis. Trust me. Some guy on another thread told me.
Ah, yes, lets put the climate crisis on hold
It's an ugly reality, but there is nothing you or I can do about climate change, except living greener (which has so little effect it rounds off to zero), and demanding government action. The billionaires own every government, and the answer is no — they'd rather destroy everything than lose 3% of their wealth.
There’s no solving climate change until we’ve solved billionaires.
There's no "solving" climate change.
I think reining them in is enough. We can habe billionaires in a green economy.
I totally agree that billionaires should not exist, but I think climate change is more important and we shouldn't lose sight of that.
The average billionaire emits 1 million times more CO2 than the average 90%er. There are about 3000 of them
Yeah and it's easier to transition to clean energy, mitigating their output, than it is to remove them.
Consider how much easier it would be without them though
Yeah but consider how difficult it is to remove them.
Difficult in what way?
Is that a serious question?
Yes. You just keep saying it's difficult with no explanation.
Well it's a statement so obvious I hardly assumed it needed explaining. Have you ever thought about the practical aspect of removing billionaires? How exactly do you think it will happen? There are several methods and they're all very difficult.
The fuck it is.
We can tax them out of existence.
They exists because the other 7-8 billion people allow them to exist.
Your lack of will and imagination is not a limiting factor for the rest of us.
Okay, let's start with that.
HOW?
In the US, Congress is in charge of taxation laws. How do we get enough congressmen on board with a tax hike on billionaires?
How do we do the tax itself? A tax on earnings or on wealth? Most billionaire earnings are not salary and most billionaire wealth is not cash.
I could keep going for years but I want to see how you deal with just those problems, for starters.
You could keep going for years? Your hyperbolic bullshit is part of the problem. It's allowed you to give up without trying.
Lol so no answers then? You're just hoping someone will wave their magic want and poof billionaires will be taxed away.
I've got answers. They'll take decades. If you have better answers, I'm all ears. Otherwise, ignore this folly and let's deal with climate change first, because dealing with billionaires is a lot more difficult.
You are not worth the effort.
You can't even comprehend how dealing with the behaviors of 3000 is easier than the behaviors of billions.
I can't fix stupid but I know it when I see it.
Oh yeah, it's totally stupid that we've allowed society to get to this point. Billionaires should not exist.
But climate change is more important, and we can fix that first.
You can't reign them in when the reigns are for purchase You can't prevent them from purchasing the reigns because when the price tag is big enough, everything is for sale You can't stop them from purchasing reigns altogether because they'll go to a different market who can, then force the market to be open to them They will do everything in their power to KEEP their power, and to prevent them from EVER LOSING their power There IS ONLY ONE WAY to stop billionaires from having power and it is to stop them from being billionaires in any way available
It's "rein them in"
Reins are for horses, reigns are for kings
And rains are for the plains of Spain!
The planes in Spain fall in the rain
Even the billionaires, really. Less income inequality, more income security.
The French Solution. Worked before.