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The summer is over, schools are back, and the data is in: ChatGPT is mainly a tool for cheating on homework.::ChatGPT traffic dropped when summer began and schools closed. Now students are back, and they're using the AI tool again more.

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[-] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 66 points 1 year ago

Homework is a tool for repetition and drudgery. Kids are in school all day. They shouldn’t need homework.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I hate to say it but there are simply so many subjects to cover in a single day that it's hard to reinforce the lessons learned in class within the given amount of time in a school session. Maybe if schools were structured in a way in which fewer subjects were taught each day would the lessons stick better without the need of homework.

[-] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Homework should be reading, class should be demonstration and practice

[-] PapstJL4U@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You don't just get better at playing the piano by reading about it. Your cardio doesn't increads by reading papers and 45min lecture is not enough for individual work in a 20 pupil glass.

[-] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I agree, if you can get a kid to read a book and actually trick them into discovering the world of fiction & non-fiction that they are interested in you have just invested in their future, there has to be no downsides to a kid wanting to read a book in bed at night rather than scroll tiktok.

[-] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Homework is a way to get parents involved because there is literally no way to teach kids everything they need to learn at school.

It’s a pitifully failed way to try and get parents involved because in the end the vast majority literally don’t give a shit.

My sister is a teacher and she’s constantly on about how little time parents put into their kids education. Note that she teaches affluent kids, I’d assume this is ten times worse in homes where both parents work or single parent homes with few resources.

[-] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t know why or where you get the idea that 8+ hours a day five days a week isn’t enough to teach kids” everything they need to know in school.” I am not anti education at all. Love school. Love university. But as someone that had to leave before the sun rose and didn’t get back until long after it set thanks to after school commitments +homework, I’ll be doing everything I can to avoid subjecting my child to that. Work life balance is important for adults, and I refuse to believe it’s not also crucial for growing minds.

[-] soloner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Fr. Just do the homework in school, proctored, if it matters so much to the teacher.

Ultimately the kids will get a test, and it should include an essay section, which they obviously have to write on the spot. I don't really think it matters how much homework they did or didn't do or what tools they used to "cheat", as long as they can perform come test day that's what matters.

[-] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

do you think someone will be capable to write an essay if it is literally the first essay they ever write, since they were using AI all the previous times? This is like reading solved math equations and believing that in a test you'll be able to solve them on the spot, without having tried to solve any by yourself before.

[-] soloner@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No! And they'll fail, retake the class, and learn from their mistakes (relying on AI completely instead of using AI for enablement). I see no problems.

This is something our whole generation will learn about and understand, like has already been done for email, social media, the internet, search engines, etc. Students are just the most concentrated because they are young, and this technology applies to solving homework problems.

[-] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Failing a class or a year is highly disruptive all around. If a large number of students literally lose the ability to write original work come test day, is the school going to fail half the student body? No, that's crazy talk. It would be considered a disaster by the school, the parents, and the wider society if it was widespread. Schools put rules in place to ensure that your work is your own mainly to prevent children from doing stupid things that will make them fail on test day.

[-] BlueBockser@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Repetition is how people learn to remember things and improve their skills. I fail to see how that's bad.

[-] foo@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

People learn through spaced, interleaved, varied, low stakes practice. Mass practice after a long day of work isn't helpful

[-] PapstJL4U@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You just wrote bad homework is bad because it's bad. That is not an argument against HW.

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