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[-] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago

They were bleeding users so they want some ways to tap into existing user pool and they think it is easy to get that by simply federating, but they are about to find out the hard way why it won't go the way they want.

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Meta apps have a couple billion users. The fediverse has maybe ten million.

I really don't think that's the reason they're considering ActivityPub.

[-] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I assumed over the years that users count would have been evaporated, so do we have current user counts for it?

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Why would you assume that? I think Facebook has reported a loss of users maybe one quarter, ever? They're flirting with 3bn these days, as far as I can tell.

[-] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Just that I don't bother to care about them for years until now that they are trying to mess with Fediverse.

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Well, like we've said elsewhere in this, they are orders of magnitude larger than the fediverse. Absorbing users or data is almost certainly not their motivation here.

[-] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

It seems like a big commitment to federate, so one have to ask what really their motivation. I don't see anything else than just tapping into user pool and trying to ride the wave. Do you have other ideas?

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If they wanted to tap into a big user pool they'd link it to Instagram, instead, which has about 2bn MAUs, as opposed to somewhere between 9 and 12 million.

The obvious reasoning for moving to a federated solution would be Meta thinking that it's a cool business opportunity to eventually link all the social media users they ALREADY have. Remember, they own Facebook, Whatsapp, Instagram and Oculus, and at the moment none of them talk to each other, beyond them forcing Oculus users to have a Facebook login, which most of them dislike.

Besides that, BlueSky promotes itself as a separate federated service, which I'm assuming is something they'd like to match if they could when launching their own Twitter alternative.

ActivityPub provides a ready-made path to both of those things they can just... plug into without having to develop it from the ground up, like BlueSky is doing. One has to imagine that the dozen or so million people already using the tech are barely a speedbump along the way, wether they choose to stay linked up to Meta's billions of users or not. Ultimately, open source is open source and Meta can still use the tech to power their Twitter clone and eventually plug it into Instagram and add two billion people to their userbase overnight.

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