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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 42 points 11 months ago

I haven't looked up Wagner in a while. I don't think I ever ran in to why it's called that.

afaik, basically the majority opinion on this website.

Afaik most people treat this as an "Enemy of my Enemy" thing. NATO is much, much worse than Russia. This war can weaken NATO. NATO winning is very, very bad because it reinforces NATO/US hegemony and would give NATO access to vast new natural resources as they carve up Russia, to say nothing of the massively increased risk of nuclear war as Russia disintegrates. A victory for Russia, especially a decisive victory, could greatly weaken NATOs position in the world. That would open up the possibility of multipolarity, which could create space for left movements to grow without being hunted down and destroyed by the US/NATO. It would give China more room to maneuver, as well as less powerful communist states. It might increase the chance of the US balkanizing, which would be horrific for those of us who live here but has a chance of benefiting the world.

Afaik very few people support Russia, but we recognize that a Russian victory is the most desirable outcome of this farce. Preferably sooner than later given the horrific amount of death and destruction.

Things are already badly fucked - Ukraine is firmly in the grip of fascism and the war has greatly advanced the cause of international fascism. It's strengthened the fascist position across Eastern Europe. The EU and US are both supporting the Double Holocaust narrative openly now. It is likely that weapons from Ukraine will flood Europe over the coming years facilitating terror and violence.

In terms of geopolitics, Russia is the least-bad guys. Nothing more, nothing less.

[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

Things are already badly fucked - Ukraine is firmly in the grip of fascism and the war has greatly advanced the cause of international fascism. It's strengthened the fascist position across Eastern Europe. The EU and US are both supporting the Double Holocaust narrative openly now. It is likely that weapons from Ukraine will flood Europe over the coming years facilitating terror and violence.

I don't think you can blame this on the war. This is just something becoming more of itself under pressure/heat. If you put sea water on boil it's going to become saltier. You can't blame Russia for the already existing contradictions and fascism of the west coming to a head

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

I don't blame Russia. NATO has been working towards this war since it was founded. The war was used to purge dissident elements in Ukraine and has been used as a cause celebre for fascism. That's all to the advantage of NATO, and NATO instigated the war by constantly pushing strategic encirclement of Russia.

[-] ilyenkov@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

Yeah, basically 100% agree with this.

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