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[-] chris@l.roofo.cc 7 points 1 year ago

you could try setting the DNS over HTTP settings to off. That might solve the issues. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dns-over-https

[-] SickPanda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Didn't work, got the censoring screen of my ISP after doing this.

[-] chris@l.roofo.cc 1 points 1 year ago

How are you changing your dns? In your router or in your system?

[-] SickPanda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In my browser. If I setup Google public dns or cloudfare in Opera GX as DNS it works perfectly fine. The only downside is that I can't access fritz.box anymore, I have to use the IP of my router to be able to access it, I just bookmarked it though.

In Firefox the dns settings dont work at all. If I disable dns I get the censoring screen, if I enable any of the dns settings Firefox always says it can't reach the DNS service.

[-] chris@l.roofo.cc 6 points 1 year ago

I have never set my DNS in my browser. Always in the system or in the router. So I don't think I can help you.

[-] SickPanda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for your effort. I will just keep using opera gx, not the best browser in terms of privacy but at least it works out of the box

[-] nevial@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Why don't you just set your DNS system-wide and set your browsers' to "system DNS", though? This shouldn't be a browser issue

[-] nevial@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Or, better yet: Define your DNS network-wide on your router (if it does support that, and if not, get a decent router) and let all your devices and browsers use those (that should happen automatically, no need to set that specifically)

[-] SickPanda@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

system wide changes tend to create system wide problems. Never touch a running system.

[-] CeeBee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Never touch a running system.

What does this even mean? You have to touch it to make changes, upgrade, improve, etc.

[-] SickPanda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The phrase is an old school principle of German server admins. Backups were super expensive back then and rolling back the system after an "upgrade" or "change" did also cost ALOT of money.

The original phrase was altered and used to be a sports thing (from baseball I believe). It used to be "never change a winning team"

[-] CeeBee@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Ya, I kinda figured that's what you might mean, and in that case it's entirely wrong.

Long uptimes used to be a point of pride for admins with how long they could keep a single boot session running. But these days a long uptime just means very outdated security patches.

"Never touch a running system" is very much the same vein now. You should constantly be touching the system for system maintenance and such.

[-] nevial@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 year ago

That's not what "never touch a running system" is meant for. It creates a lot more problems (as you experienced yourself) to dabble with DNS on an application-level

[-] SickPanda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nope. First of all I only had one problem and only with Firefox. Second the phrase is also usable in this case. If I change my dns settings in my system (or my router), there is a chance that ALL applications have a problem with resolving URLs. Making most changes only on application layer did save me alot of time which others had to use for troubleshooting.

[-] nevial@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I mean you do you of course, but to me that's not logical at all, it's literally just one line of numbers that you would have to troubleshoot (if at all) and the entire system would be fixed instead of doing that for each application separately

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