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[-] Silentiea@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago

But why? The full effects of vaping are not well understood, and while they're almost certainly not as bad as cigarettes, they're also almost certainly still bad for you, and they are indeed still addictive for the same reasons as cigarettes. Further, one main reason their risks remain as poorly understood as they do is that (again, because of the same active ingredient) people who vape often also use cigarettes. The two are closely linked, I don't think my confusion should be so easily dismissed as that.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Banning nicotine would be going too far. Nicotine in and of itself isn't that bad, it's the delivery methods that can be problematic. In particular the ones where you inhale things into your lungs. But there are smokeless tobacco and there are types of tobacco smoking where you don't inhale the smoke.

[-] BluesF@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

Who would want other nicotine options without cigarettes or vaping? No one is starting out with nicorette.

[-] vidarh@lemmy.stad.social 2 points 1 year ago

I tried to start with both a patch and gums years ago because of the stimulant benefits and the decent risk profile of nicotine on its own. I've never smoked, never will. Didn't stick - it was too hard to get used to. If I could get it as a flavourless pill, maybe.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Many people. There are many different tobacco products that either are smokeless or that you don't inhale that are common in different areas, like dip, snus, snuff, cigars, pipes and what have you. In some regions those are what people start using nicotine with.

[-] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually I started with nicorette because of nootropics blogs and nasal snuff. I've only ever smoked 1 cigarette although I did partake in some hookah.

[-] HikingVet -4 points 1 year ago

Nicotine is the active psychoactive poison that gets you hooked. Its not harmless.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Psychoactive poison. Great argument there. List the negative effects of nicotine itself that you think are so bad that they require a ban instead of the problematic delivery methods.

[-] vidarh@lemmy.stad.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's "psychoactive" in the same way that caffeine is. That is, it's a stimulant. Using that term only serves the purpose of making it sound scarier. And it's far less addictive on its own than when smoked. It's not harmless, but it's also nowhere near as big a problem in itself as specific product categories and delivery methods, and no worse than any number of other things we're perfectly fine with people using.

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