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[–] sloth@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree completely!

For example, Half-Life was an artfully executed product. The original Counter-Strike Mod was a work of Art.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about when art is commissioned?

[–] sloth@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gonna have a hard time convincing artists of this.

[–] sloth@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

How many paintings did Van Gogh sell?

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So only amatuer art is art? The western art music canon is Schubert and some folk songs? The Sistine chapel and the Forbidden City and the Sphinx, all products

[–] sloth@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You can call whatever you want anything you like, especially art. I define 'Art' as something that is created only to exist and be appreciated. Once other concerns and interests get involved it stops being 'Art' and becomes a product with artistic characteristics.

I would consider most folk songs 'Art'.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I guess...but...that cuts out 99.9998 percent of what most humans would call art. Including all socialist art!

Also, is a commissioned work not created solely to exist and be appreciated by the commissioner (and often the artist as well, artists like making things for others)? Is g&s only art if done by a third rate amateur musical society? Indeed, are they performing art or a product? Does a work of performance art become art when it enters the public domain?

It seems utterly absurd to call every professional artist who ever lived not an artist just because they had some kind of outside context to their work.