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History lives in the present (lemmy.zip)

submitted 10 months ago by balderdash9@lemmy.zip to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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Context (for those who don't know): Israel and Palestine

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[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 81 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

One group was actually living there and the other group moved in and literally ripped people from their homes.

[-] roboticide@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

That's been happening for the last 5,000 years in that region though, since the Canaanites.

It's not like the Palestinians were the first there.

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The Palestinians are descendants of the ancient canaanites. Most of the people in that region never left they just changed their religion at some point. This hasn't always been happening, in Ottoman times Christians Jews and Muslims peacefully coexisted in the region.

[-] roboticide@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean, kinda? They're also heavily descended from 7th Century AD Arabic conquerors, but yes, many other natives may have adopted Arabic culture, language and religion at that time.

But Jewish culture is also derived from the Canaanite culture, with arguably more overlap. Jewish culture in the region can be traced back to at least the 9th Century BC, with the literal Kingdom of Israel. So the argument of "Well who was there first?" does not necessarily favor the Palestinians over the Israelis.

This has always been happening though. It's not like the Ottomans took over the region peacefully. It's been conquered and re-conquered by Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans...

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Palestinian culture is also derived from canaanite culture. Arabs are semitic people and follow abrahamic traditions. When places get conquered usually the ruling class changes but the lower class people stay in their homes and just change language/religion/identity. Usually the new rulers don't try to completely wipe out the inhabitants of their new land the way israel is doing with Palestinians