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Context (for those who don't know): Israel and Palestine

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[-] Haus@kbin.social 218 points 9 months ago

It worked so well when they did the same thing for themselves and Ireland.

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 145 points 9 months ago

Also that whole India/Pakistan thing. And I seem to remember some stuff happening in Africa.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 88 points 9 months ago

The secret ingredient is running the fuck away before either of them notice.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 58 points 9 months ago

And the Soviets did the same with Armenia and Azerbaijan.

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[-] dreadgoat@kbin.social 66 points 9 months ago

It always works out fine for them. I don't know why anybody says imperialism or colonialism are bad or destructive, seems to me that Britain and France and Spain and Portugal and the Dutch are all doing fine. Really weird how maps of their empires seem to overlap a lot with parts of the world that currently or recently experienced a lot of, idk let's call it "troubles?" They must be dumb or smth

[-] YourFavouriteNPC@feddit.de 31 points 9 months ago

Well, since those former colonies can't quite work it out on their own, maybe they should just be brought back into their respective empires again? 🤔

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They even had a nice little name for it, The ~~Troubles~~ Fun Times!

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago

“Spicy diplomacy”

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[-] erranto@lemmy.world 114 points 9 months ago

Britain has planted the seeds of hatred and bloodshed in the middle east and is now acting as if it has no responsibility towards resolving the conflict.

It is hard to watch the British media coverage of this war acting all outraged and surprised by the violence while being proud of their historical imperial inheritance .

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

Britain is laughably impotent today.

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[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 29 points 9 months ago

Britain and France are responsible for such an enormous fuck up in Asia, Africa and the middle east, past and present, it's probably impossible to put it in numbers. The US gets bashed a lot (deservedly), but I think those two were planting something way more devastating for generations to come

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago

Don't forget Belgium and the Dutch.

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[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 79 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

One group was actually living there and the other group moved in and literally ripped people from their homes.

[-] roboticide@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

That's been happening for the last 5,000 years in that region though, since the Canaanites.

It's not like the Palestinians were the first there.

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[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 73 points 9 months ago

Someone's parents never taught them to share.

Obligatory fuck religion.

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[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 55 points 9 months ago

Also Britain: Oh good, the UN voted in favor of splitting up the land except the entire Arab League voting against the plan? Ok, sounds good, bye guys, have fun!

[-] Neato@kbin.social 39 points 9 months ago

It's like an HOA: The council is deciding how to divide up your backyard between your neighbors. The lawn owner is the only dissenting vote and then the neighborhood wonders why they are being so hostile.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

Except in this case it costs you not just your backyard but basically your entire life.

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[-] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago

I do hope the Israel and Palestine Wikipedia pages are doing ok.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago

Looks like there's a war

[-] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

FINE YOU WEIRDO ZEALOTS:

I do hope the Palestine and Israel Wikipedia pages are doing ok.

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[-] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago

It's working as intended, the whole Ottoman Empire was split to create manufactured internal conflict.

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[-] jarfil@lemmy.ml 25 points 9 months ago

Alternate caption: "Zionists smuggling in settlers before the British mandate ended to have enough votes to create a State of Israel as a safe haven for Holocaust refugees, then getting populated mostly by Jews fleeing Arab countries out of fear of retaliation for having created the State of Israel a day early and having pushed most Palestinians out by force"

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 20 points 9 months ago

You realize that most Israelis came from Europe after WW2?

or do you think Liebermann, Herzog, Weitzmann, Goldberg, Weinstein etc. are Arabic names?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelis 33 % are ethnic Europeans as opposed to 12% from asia and 15% from Africa

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Interesting info and I'm not arguing against your point, but that source doesn't address their point at all. The cited source covers recent demographics. The previous user is referring to events that occurred in 1947ish. The time periods are not close enough to be relevant to each other, especially considering the massive changes that occurred throughout that period in the area.

That's kind of like if someone said that the Caribbean was entirely populated by natives when the Europeans showed up in 1492, and someone responded with demographics from the 1570s after the Spanish had established settlements in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Trinidad, and conquered the Aztecs to dismiss the initial point. The demographics are going to be vastly different. It kind of sheds doubt onto your rebuttal since there seems to be a logical disconnect.

Does anyone have any sources on the demographics right before the British invited Jewish people to move to the Levant?

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[-] Hedup@lemm.ee 22 points 9 months ago
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[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

~~Borders are~~ violence.

Religion is violence

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago
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[-] ytg@feddit.ch 16 points 9 months ago

This war really makes you hate Britain (and possibly France) for causing unrest in the first place

[-] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah it was a land of peace with no unrest until the British came.

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[-] ChiefSinner@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

Palestinians also contain Christians. Its just the modern term for gentiles in Israel now.

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