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[-] arymandias@feddit.de 64 points 10 months ago

No food, no water, no power, please explain to me how this is not genocide.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

Not to mention the white phosphorus launched by Israel

[-] sushibowl@feddit.nl 9 points 10 months ago

The Gaza strip has been systematically economically destroyed for over 20 years. The border with Israel has been strictly controlled since Hamas came to power in 2007. Israel does not allow goods to cross the Gaza-Egypt border directly, everything must go through Israel. There are only 2 border crossings, and all import and export is strictly controlled. Import of any goods marked "dual-use" (possibly useful for both military and civilian) is limited. About 80% of business in the Gaza strip has closed doors since the blockade began. Even "internal" trade is hampered by the blockade. Palestinian fishermen in Gaza, who want to sell their fish to Palestinians in the west bank, are restricted by a fish export quotum imposed by Israel. This quotum was halved by Israel last year, cutting income of the fishermen in half.

Infrastructure is periodically destroyed. In accordance with peace accords from the nineties, a seaport was being constructed in Gaza with European funding. However, in 2001 Israeli tanks destroyed the construction site, and bombed the site again several months later. European companies then pulled out of the project. Since 2007 Israel blockades the Gaza strip fully by sea also. A similar fate befell the Palestinian airport: the radar station and control tower were bombed, and bulldozers have cut the runways, rendering it inoperable.

Furthermore, Israel collects tax on behalf of the Palestinian state. These taxes form about 60-70% of Palestine's income. Israel regularly suspends payments as "punishment" for terrorist attacks. It also keeps part of the taxes collected for itself before transferring the remainder to Palestine. The amount withheld was doubled last year by the Israeli minister of finances.

Another important source of income for Palestinians is labor in Israel. Palestinians are used as a source of cheap labour by Israel in the construction, industrial, and agricultural sectors. When the current war broke out, most of the workers were arrested and deported to the West Bank, even though they actually live in the Gaza strip. Some are stuck there while their families in Gaza die in the retaliatory bombardments.

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

No genetic testing, so not "geno"-cide... /s

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Geno in genocide isn't referring to genetics. It's gene as in genos as in race not religion. Arab Jews and Arab Muslims are the same race so it couldn't be genocide strictly defined but rather the UN/international definition. And that's wholely ignoring that race is a social construct not a objective fact and science does not in fact recognize "race" but rather geographic phenotypical derivation.

These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.[1][2]

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Because all of that can still be imported through the Egyptian border? Israel isn't supplying the state that just declared war on them with resources, not intentionally starving all of Gaza to death like you seem to be implying.

[-] medgremlin 9 points 10 months ago

If you read the article you can see that Egypt has been prevented from delivering aid by the ongoing missile strikes.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

Cairo says it will allow aid to be delivered through its border to Gaza

The Gaza side was temporarily damaged due to air strikes. In the meantime aid is being flown in.

In a statement, Egypt states that it did not close its side of the crossing, and calls on all countries and international organizations in the region to provide humanitarian aid to Gazans by flying it through the El-Arish airport in northern Sinai, located about 56 kilometers (35 miles) from the Rafah crossing. source

[-] medgremlin 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

When you're talking about getting food, fuel, and water to more than 2 million people, air drops are not going to be remotely sufficient. Convoys of full size trucks might not be enough. 2 to 3 liters of water per person per day adds up really fast.

Edit: Just for fun, I looked up the capacity of tanker trucks to see how many they would need to get enough drinking water to the civilians in Gaza at a rate of 3 liters per person per day, assuming a population of 2.3 million and a tanker capacity of 60k liters. (Keep in mind, this does not account for water needed for hygiene or food preparation, etc.) It turns out that they would need to bring in 115 tanker trucks a day to keep the civilian population supplied with adequate drinking water. Or, y'know, Israel could turn the water back on.

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub -4 points 10 months ago

Damn, it really sucks that Has dig up water pipelines to turn into rockets at this point.

[-] arymandias@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago

Gaza is not a state, it does not have any of the rights normal countries have, it’s an open-air prison managed by Israel. And it is currently under naval blockade by Israel, so even if Gaza was a state it would still be a war crime.

[-] Pasta4u@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

A prison you can leave at anytime isn't a prison. They can all seek asylum in egypt

[-] arymandias@feddit.de 7 points 10 months ago

You are talking about ethnic cleansing here my friend. Making a situation so hostile and violent that a population needs to flee their homeland.

[-] Pasta4u@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It's a tale as old as time. The other alternative is every few years Hamas attacks Isreal and they carpet bomb Gaza for a few days or weeks.

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