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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 82 points 1 year ago

Thank you Israel for uniting the Arab World again. Even racist Saudis on Twitter are now realizing that there's literally nothing redeemable about the West anymore. It's really cool how they all realized that our lives aren't valuable to them, they'll freeze our assets like they did with the Russians if we ever piss them off and the average Westerner supports the killing of Arabs without batting an eye. Arabs and Muslims only have the people of the third world on their side, the westerners are useless.

[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

seems like a pipe dream, but I hope the Arab states and Iran can come together and stop Israel. something needs to be done, this is so awful.

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty much all the Gulf States are firmly cucked and will remain so for the foreseeable future with or without BRICS. The absolute most that they would give is a wink to Iran that they won't start shit with them if they're busy with Israel. Jordan is also firmly cucked - they could hypothetically be overthrown but this would take weeks unless there's internal forces that would be willing to overthrow the leadership. Egypt is in an interesting position where they're fucked no matter what they do, unless every single Gazan stays (and, with the siege, probably dies) within Gaza, or if there's a pro-Palestinian palace coup against Sisi. No hope whatsoever for Turkiye to do anything except maybe supply aid and a coup seems very unlikely.

The problems affecting Syria and Lebanon have been well-discussed, though they seem to be on the path to helping anyway. Iran will provide all they can spare in the event of a regional war but will probably try and avoid getting caught up de jure if at all possible. Any Arab state further west than Egypt is infeasible, same for the Arab states in southeast Asia like Indonesia. Not sure what the Chechens think about the whole thing beyond Kadyrov's words but they're busy in Ukraine so it's not even hypothetically possible.

Yemen, maybe Afghanistan probably has some people who really want to fight, but physically getting to Israel would be pretty challenging in substantial numbers. Some individuals might be able to make it but not armies and certainly not heavy equipment.

While the pro-Palestine protests and support on social media are genuinely heartening, I struggle to see how it results in anything without them being escalated beyond mere relatively peaceful protests. It's been observed by smarter people than me that protests in the 21st century have achieved essentially jack shit (except in truly mysterious cases where the protests are pro-US - those, for some strange unknowable reason, are usually more successful).

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Isn’t it odd how every nation bordering Israel is kept at a near state of collapse? It’s so weird that our imperialist wedge we jammed into the Middle East just so happens to be destroying all the nations it touches

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Jordan's military is also actually fairly competent compared to the Gulf militaries. If the King were to get couped, it would be a military coup and not a popular uprising.

[-] fever@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

The deputies would never betray the sheriff.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Gulf Monarchies could double the price of oil and crash the NYSE practically overnight if they wanted to, but unsurprisingly, they have not.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Seriously, Saudi Arabia could play chicken with international markets and force a concession if they really wanted to

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

are they ? , not even hezbollah ncan be asked to not PR-Department the ethnic cleansing of their Resitance Fortress .., It could be cynicall strategy to give israel room to bloody and delegitimize itself, unite the umma , but i haven seen anything material coming from them till now (quatar threating to cut gas maybe.. )
.. but i dont know , hopefully fucking "axis of restance (*statements) " , doesnt want history to say birds beat them...

desolate

[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

The public outrage is unlike anything I've seen before, this is bigger than just a military response to what's happening in Palestine. A whole new generation of previously apathetic Arabs whose internet feeds has been dominated by zionist narratives just woke up and are finally seeing the truth in Palestine. Whenever Egypt or Jordan inevitably collapse in the next years, the people who will lead the revolutions and the uprising will be people who were radicalised in the past week. The Arab narrative and the public opinion hasn't been this unified since the First Intifada.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Outrage don't mean shit if nobody acts. Everyone in the US was outraged in 2020 about police brutality, and now our brains have been scrambled so much that like 90% of the people who supported the burning down cop stations during riots now are opposed to defunding the police. If these people were under the sway of Zionist media narratives before, they probably will become so again because they live in a pro-zionist cucked state

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