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On decriminalising drugs
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Mind enlightening me... What's going on in Oregon?
They legalized mushrooms and some other drugs and then (if I recall) made it to where possession wasn’t a crime. Half of Oregon (I imagine you can identify it based on population density) now most likely thinks legalizing drugs means allowing the bad behavior that comes from some of its users. Rather than realizing that alcohol is legal and has bad users as well that cause major harm to our communities but we wouldn’t dare take that away again.
I live in Indiana right on the central Illinois border. Weed is legal in Illinois but illegal in Indiana. You would think all those towns by the Indiana border would welcome the tax revenue from having dispensaries in them (Michigan towns do this to attract Indiana buyers). Nope. Those redneck counties decided that crime would run rampant in their little towns and passed resolutions banning dispensaries.
People from around here still go to Illinois to buy weed. They just drive an hour to do it. It's worth it to them, but they would definitely buy more often if it was one county over. And while we're not a huge city, it's a decent enough sized market that they would definitely get a lot of business. Morons.
Thank you for explaining!
Nobody has ever gone on a violent rampage on mushrooms.
I know someone who has actually. They didn't actually harm anyone but they did wave a knife around and it 100% would've got bad had they not been tackled to the ground. This shouldn't stop u from doing shrooms tho just know your limits.
Yikes! Must have been a very bad trip. That sounds more like defensive behavior though, rather than violent intent.
You really shouldn't tackle people who are holding knives. I was watching Cops once and this lady was waving around an 8" chef's knife. One cop tackled her and the knife ended up embedded to the hilt in her chest. Idk if she died, but she was definitely fucked up.
Drugs were decriminalized. Crime and overdose has gone up everywhere but a majority of Oregonians seem to believe that decriminalization is the cause.
Why did crime and overdosing go up everywhere then? I'm for legalization, but that seems a bit too coincidental to just ignore.
Crime and overdoses went up across the country, not just in states where drugs were decriminalized.
In addition to the other poster's clarification, I'd also like to add that even if it was related to the drugs, IMO "banning things that can be related to criminal behavior" isn't the move.
Alcohol is a prime example of this, as in the meme. People often make bad decisions related to it, sometimes like driving, sometimes even cold blooded murder, and they can die from it as well, alcohol poisoning, cirrhosis, you can even die from the withdrawls, but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't be able to enjoy a beer or two after a long shift at work on a hot ass day.
Similarly, while true that people can overdose on heroin, or can commit crimes to get it, it isn't necessarily right for me to tell you that you can't use it if you want, just don't commit those crimes or you will be punished.
Frankly, though you can't overdose, I've known people who stole to get video games, comics, records, etc, just other normal worldly possessions they wanted more than they had morals. The same crime happened with no drugs involved. Does that mean we need to ban alcohol, comics, records, games, anything people steal ever? No, because that is silly, "don't steal" covers it regardless of motivation for theft, IMO "because crime can be done with/for it" is a pisspoor reasoning for banning something.