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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] plov_mix@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

When will anglophone news sources learn not to refer to Chinese persons by their given names lmao. It’s so flirtatiously endearing to refer to Wang Yi as Yi — or to Xi as Jinping ~~~~~

[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

is it more normal to use the family name, or are you supposed to say their whole name?

[-] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In this case, the masthead should use the same convention for Chinese names as they do for others. e.g. 'President Joe Biden' and 'President Biden' or 'Mr Biden' would be equivalent to 'President Xi Jinping' and 'President Xi' or 'Mr Xi' thereafter.

In Chinese articles, President Xi would be called something like 'National Chairman Xi Jinping' and as Xi Jinping thereafter.

In formal spoken Chinese, it is most common to use the family name + title, family name + Mr/Mrs/etc, or family name + relation to the speaker.

So for e.g. the person with the name Li Xiaoning could be

  • Li laoshi (teacher Li)
  • Li nvshi (Ms Li) or
  • Li ayi (auntie Li)

Generally though, given names are only used by friends, family or from a person of higher position to one lower. Teacher Li could address her student Wang Bingbing as Wang tongxue (pupil Wang) or Bingbing tongxue (pupil Bingbing). Wang Bingbing's friends may call her Bingbing.

For people with two character names, they're often just said in full, even in informal situations, or the given name is reduplicated to soften it a little e.g. Huang Mo would be called Momo.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago
[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Generally, when reporting you use their last names, title + last name, or title + / first and last name.

When speaking about figures you’re not intimate with, it’s usually less awkward when you refer to them with their last name unless their reputation involves first name basis, like calling Bernie Sanders “Bernie”

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