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Nadella, Gates, and Ballmer have all admitted to Microsoft’s mobile mistakes.

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[–] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 59 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I'm not a Microsoft fan, in fact I think of windows the same way I would an abusive Ex, but there NEEDS To be more competition in the mobile space

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

yeah, more competition - not another gigantic conglomerate that wants to integrate my phone into my operating system.

more competition would be great, another google/apple type - meh.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately only a 'gigantic conglomerate' stands a chance against Google and Apple. The other smartphone OSs - Ubuntu, Manjaro etc. - have a tiny market share.

Just look at how Firefox OS struggled even in developing countries, where it could run much better than Android in low-end smartphones. Then Reliance (a big and very cut-throat company) licenced it and now it has a decent marketshare in India. There are plenty of good alternative OSs, but without a big war chest they aren't getting mainstream acceptance.

[–] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fair enough, what I really want is the ability to have a proper, functional, linux distro on my phone

[–] knotthatone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm hoping the slow creep of right to repair laws will help with this. Forcing manufacturers to provide spare parts, documentation and diagnostic tools to independent shops I think will inevitably lead to more open devices in general.

There would already be a vibrant community of smartphone Linux distros right now if bootloaders were unlocked and manufacturers were more forthcoming with documentation.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

very good point. the best use for that ewaste would be decent retreads for people who just need a phone and don't care that it's a few years from 'latest and greatest'.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

one day... they're certainly powerful enough these days.

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago

I think there is more room with another Android based OS akin to FireOS, a fully Microsoft version of Android, with their desig language over top of what wouldn't need porting outside of Google based dependencies.