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You choose what instance you are on. Quit the pseudointellectual whining. (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by mrpants@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

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No server operator needs to federate with you.
No server operator needs to tolerate things they don't want on their instance.
No user of an instance needs to personally curate their own extensive never ending blocklist of users and channels they don't want to see.

Quit your pseudo-intellectual whining and choose what instance(s) work for you. If you think regularly interacting with shit content somehow helps you stay out of an echo chamber then go ahead and make a second account on those garbage instances full of hateful people. Then you can read both the decent servers and the trash ones and be the fedora wearing ackshually right fair and balanced uber nerd you always wanted to be.

Edit: The huge number of upvotes on this post compared to the low numbers on the whiney imposers' posts is proof of exactly where this community places its priorities.

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[-] Miqo@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Content moderation absolutely is a form of free speech. They get to decide who to associate with and what ideals to rebroadcast with their own equipment. They aren't government entities and do reserve the right to express their individual beliefs. If you have a problem with that, find a better-suited instance for your own personal beliefs, or host your own.

If you want further reading on the subject, here's a well-written post that explains the positive relationship between more active content moderation and "freer" speech.

[-] haltowork@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Amazing.

"I'm censoring people so that I can promote free speech!"

Just admit that it's not free speech. That's just a roundabout way to justify your decision when there's no justification required.

[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: Cracks had Agora on the brain and applied it where it wasn't necessary.

[-] haltowork@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

I think you have issues with reading comprehension. I haven't bitched anywhere about any defederation, moderation, censorship or whatever done by instance owners.

Obviously, it's up to them and can lead to better content. It can also lead to echo chambers, but that's an implementation detail.

All I did was point out that censorship is not free speech. Free speech is an ideal that doesn't work in the real world, and it's fine to admit you're not open to everyone having free speech.

[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: You know what? You're right - this was a poor response to your comment. I blame too much Agora and too little coffee. Will come back to this if I think of a better response more in line with the level you're addressing (more general and philosophical sense).

I do think curation is not necessarily censorship, and is itself a form of free expression when looking at all means a person can express themselves in a given society. [End of edit, slightly less but still kinda dumb comments remain below]

I apologize - this was more of a general statement. "You're free to build, or you're free to complain, both are valid". *Edit: And taking the recent hub-bub as a case in point re: the Fediverse stuff. Bleh, been a bit too meta recently.

My issue was with curation not being free expression. This only holds for me if there are absolutely no other alternatives to express your ideas.

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