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Going into disasters and it being a disaster are the same thing. I'm not irresolute on the matter, but clearer identification of wrongdoing shouldn't involve a number of villains destabilizing everything.
Ho Chi Minh, had a clear mandate before the US entered, and should have been welcome to expel the French (who allied with Japan). Now, sovereignty is resolved and all borders and diplomacy are entirely respected by the US. They're practically an ally these days. The US performed like absolute crap in the war, but now they encourage the sovereignty of the Vietnamese people.
Does China learn lessons like that? Ho Chi Minh's cadre also had to say no to China, and if it wasn't for Russia that could have ended worse. And it's still not resolved. China barely understands foreign sovereignty.
(Ahh, I don't want to stick up for the US position!)
I meant what I said. Not entered into, not participated in, perpetrated. Korea, Indonesia, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Mainland China, Cambodia, Phillipines, and that's just off the top of my head.
Vietnam was an invasion perpetrated on the basis of a lie, and it didn't make Vietnam's struggle against France and China any easier to also have the US invading.
You don't want to defend the US? DON'T. It forces you to lie and be an asshole, and it's not worth it.
No nation state gives a shit about sovereignty. They understand violence and little else. It's just the US has been in a position of global power since WWII left them with all the benefits of war profiteering and almost none of the direct cost of war at home.
No, I think you're wrong. A lot of countries try to make a big deal of sovereignty as a recommendation for peace. The US buys into that logic. It's been proven repeatedly. In a way, they see borders as almost sacred.
It's the same as they've proven not to want to use nuclear weapons. Despite the empire based logic leaking into some factors of US activities they still avoid WMDs and keep stepping back from the brink.
You can't seriously think the other countries being mentioned are pushing any such agenda. Most mentioned are disrespecting the sovereignty of their neighbours and building up on international activity to harm efforts for international peace.
The US even tried everything to embrace China and Russia before this last decade of absolute bullshit from those countries.
The US's biggest problem is actually getting involved because of previous promises. They made no promises in Myanmar, and look how that shitshow went down with China as an ally.
I can't buy this China is an alternative military superpower idea. They never prove to do anything other than end up in a lifelong dispute with every other nation that gets in their way. Look at how Hong Kong panned out. That was disrespectful as hell! I know who the assholes are.
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Edit: if you're upset that I didn't take their comment seriously, they didn't either. They're just saying shit. "They see borders as almost sacred" What? How? Why? What? More importantly, fuck you? This is such complete unadulterated bullshit that I don't even know where to start. That sentence is such a spit in the face that I refuse to dignify it with a real response.
Read a GODDAMNED BOOK.
Edit 2: don't read a book, that's too advanced. Start with a pamphlet: https://archive.org/details/war-is-a-racket-smedley
Edit 3: I will be thinking about this comment for a long time. What the fuck? What? WHAT? This comment gives me existential dread. How did this happen? I think I need to reexamine my concept of knowledge. This isn't just ignorance, it's not a level of ignorance like a baby has. This ignorance has to be learned. Like I know misinformation and propaganda do that to people, but this forced me to gain a new perspective on that particular abyss.
They said they DIDN'T WANT TO DEFEND THE US. How do you get from that position to saying what's in this comment? I will lose sleep over this.