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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Masimatutu@lemm.ee to c/europe@feddit.de

Meanwhile in Germany:

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[-] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

Presumably it’s a voluntary trade?

Well, I'd think so, too, but I'm not sure France voluntarily shuts off their nuclear reactors during the summer.

[-] Opafi@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

Sssshhhh, don't interrupt the nuclear circlejerk.

[-] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Don't tell them that nuclear is by far the most expensive source of electricity in europe, no matter which costs you include

while still producing an order of magnitude more CO2 than renewables

or their heads will explode. And don't ever ask them why no energy company in the world build a new nuclear reactor without subsidies, because the answer is: nuclear power is so ridiculously expensive that it isn't financially profitable.

Well, that is unless you let the taxpayers cover all the costs, then it's perfect to reap the highest profits.

[-] ByGourou@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

"Consequential cost to health and environnement" of nuclear if higher that coal ? Wtf, in what world ?

Coal is more radioactive than nuclear plant, and that's the lesser issue, between air polution, plant burning, and the effect of that much co2 being released, that can't be true.

Either it's bullshit or I missunderstood the graph.

[-] arlaerion@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Its interesting they use "most recent generation of turbines" but don't do that on nuclear. Also WISE is not a credible source. It's an anti-nuclear organisation with guys like Mycle Schneider on board.

Which source says 117g/kWh for nuclear? IPCC 2014 says 12g, UNECE 2020 about 5.1g (for EU28 nuclear).

[-] paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Its interesting they use "most recent generation of turbines" but don't do that on nuclear.

Feel free to tell us how much cheaper current nuclear power plants are than the ones that were built in the 70s and 80s.

I'm sure there's some great data from Flamanville, Olkiluoto or Hinkley Point, showing us all how cheap and affordable nuclear has become.

[-] arlaerion@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you thought just a little bit about what I wrote, you would know I was discussing the second graph.

Answer my points, not reinterpret them to fit your agenda.

[-] Sentau@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They shutdown half of their reactors temporarily for maintenance in 2022. It was a one time thing. Your statement makes it seem like they do it every year.

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