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First off, I don't base my views on "what Americans are like" with what people post online. Just about everyone I know personally has just gone off the deep end it seems.

People I've known for decades who were "right of center" have now drifted to the far right. Where they used to support separation of church and state, small government, etc. they now want the government to tax the poor, establish a Christian ethnostate, and are openly talking about "the coming revolution". Meanwhile, most everyone I've known who is leftist wants the government to disarm them, claims to be pro-LGBT but blindly supports any Muslim country and blindly hates Israel, and thinks Joe Biden is the "greatest president EVAR".

Am I just in a weird bubble where 95% of the people in my life are politically and philosophically dipshits? Does anyone else experience this with people they actually know? I feel like I'm going crazy when I can be talking with a "leftist" about trans rights in Texas and then the very next conversation is about how wholesome they think the average Palestinian is in Gaza. Is there anyone else who's at least left of center and recognizes that religious zealots in the Middle East want to kill you and shouldn't be supported and religious zealots in YOUR OWN FUCKING COUNTRY want to kill you and you shouldn't disarm yourself?

Just what the fuck is going on in this country? There's so much disinformation and paid trolls that I don't base these views off what's online. I just run into the exact same lunacy with nearly everyone I've known my whole life.

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[-] CommanderM2192@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

This is exactly what I mean in my post. I've been "patient and polite" for decades. And then I see shit like this not just online, but also with leftists I personally know.

As someone who's actually been to Muslim countries in the Middle East and seen their brand of racism and literal slavery, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Yes actually, I believe that a MUSLIM MAJORITY country is going to mostly be racist, transphobic bigots. Do you have any fucking idea what Muslims in the Middle East are actually like?

Have you ever seen a slave in real life? Have you ever driven past ancient ruins from other religions that were defaced and scrubbed clean? Have you ever been warned "make sure you don't have any religious material on you" before entering a country? Have you ever had to drive in a convoy with a security detail? Have you ever been near a suicide bombing? Have you ever seen 15 women in full Burqas being lead around and told what to do by a 12 year old boy?

You dipshit "leftists" are sheltered and have no fucking clue just how evil other people can be. Since you've got no fucking nuance, I'll spell it out for you. I do not blindly support Israel. I openly condemn every atrocity they commit. But I can see that if I were gay there'd be only one country in the Middle East that I could feel safe in.

I've ranted and vented, and I feel just about done caring about all this. Boomers are going to reap what they've sown with the failing economy and climate change destroying their chances at retirement. But you dumbass Millennials and Gen Z who think they know it all are also going to reap what you've sown in the future. Learn some history, learn about just how awful every fundamentalist religious culture is. Learn how to use a firearm or flee this country if you want any chance at a happy ending in your life.

[-] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Are Arabic countries racist? No. Transphopic? probably. Supporting slavery? IDK what hell hole you were in, but if it's actual slavery, then I've never visited that part of the world before.

Based on the convoys you've taken and the other experiences you've had, it looks like you check if the country has ongoing conflicts and if it does, you decide to go there. Have you paid Yemen or Syria a visit yet? I am sure you'll be blown away.

If you were Christian or Muslim and didn't want to be spit on and attacked for no reason, then your middle eastern country of choice changes drastically. The "only democracy in the middle east" is not the most secular country, nor is it the least racist one.

[-] CommanderM2192@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

then I’ve never visited that part of the world before

Yeah, it sure sounds like you've never visited a Muslim majority country before. I can't speak for the most war-torn parts of the Middle East, but I can say that even the "nicer" parts like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc. have no shortage of racism and sexism.

You have no idea what the fuck you're even talking about.

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