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Be careful. New platforms invite bad actors.
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If you ran your browser as root and configured your browser to load local resources on non-local domains maybe. I think you can do that in chrome://flags but you have to explicitly list the domains allowed to do it.
I'm hoping this is just a bad joke.
you don't need to be root to read
/etc/passwd
Are you sure? What do you get when you run
$ cat /etc/passwd
in terminal? Just paste the results here 😇Edit: to anyone reading this on the future, don't actually do this, it was a joke
yup pretty sure
😉
Weird, all I see is *******
Since you told me not to. There isn't a risk on most linux systems; passwords were moved to /etc/shadow a long time ago. It only leaks the names of your users and largely useless info for most attackers:
Well it's not completely useless. It offers some insights into the system. Which service accounts exists, what usernames are used.
If an attacker finds a valid username they can then start bruteforcing the password.
From your account list we can see you have sshd and xrdp. Do they both provide the same kind of bruteforce protection? Are there any recent exploits for either?
That's why I said largely useless. An attacker can narrow down the attack surface by ignoring anything that can't login, but that just leaves them with root and delial, and they already knew or could've guessed both of those pieces of information (in this context anyway).
And as you noted when looking at the service accounts, they might be able to login or crack their way in via xrdp or sshd. So, unless you're port-forwarding those protocols from the internet, how useful is that really? I would say largely useless. Assuming they port-scanned your public IP, they still need either an insecure config or an unpatched, remotely exploitable bug.
That being said, you're totally right. The average Linux user isn't "administering" their system, so they probably aren't following their distribution's security mailing list, installing security patches as they're released, and actually RTFM. It's best for the average user to play it unbelievably safe.
In this case, the machine isn't actually running xrdp, and sshd doesn't accept passwords or root logins. (Although, I need to setup knockd to protect that non-standard sshd port a bit more.) All passwords used on the system are random and longer than 32 characters. My router doesn't port-forward to this machine, either.
This has been an exercise of Cunningham's Law for the benefit of those reading.
Sometimes I hate how well Cunningham's Law works. 😃
That’s because passwd doesn’t store the password hashes. Just user names.
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Yeah, seems highly unlikely to ever yield any results. Even if you did manage to read a file, you have to get lucky finding a password hash in a rainbow table or the password being shit enough to crack.
Also generally the actual password (or rather its hash) is stored in /etc/shadow on most systems from the past 20 odd years.