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Except behaviour like that didn't exist in my high school, where the IT and IS classes I took were again, almost exclusively guys.
No one in the class gave a shit what gender you were, no one was harassed, but almost no girls had interest in it enough to sign up. This despite half the class being jocks who literally signed up for the class as an alternative math/science credit because they didn't pass the grade 11 science / math class(es).
My mother was in IT in the 1980s but left the field due to a combination of myself, siblings and being laid off due to the change from building sized servers to more modern ones. When she went back she didn't have the credentials or knowledge to be more than data entry.
Hell, I recall shop class in 9th grade was an even split, but suddenly in grade 10 it dropped off a cliff and became a sausage fest.
The issue I can see is that for an unknown reason school aged girls seem to have been culturally dissuaded from IT and IS when the technical revolution in the 1980s took place.
Taking one extremely isolated event that even in the event's own history is unprecedented, and extrapolating it across the entire industry is wrong and dishonest. If it was as systemic as you state, then that fair would have always had that issue, not have it suddenly occur this year.
You may feel that way strongly and want to reinforce your biases with anecdotes. Instead of argue with you in kind, allow me to provide resources going back to 2008 produced by very qualified women that come to similar conclusions. If this isn't enough there's sourced material in these and much more found elsewhere.
The Athena Factor: Reversing the Brain Drain in Science, Engineering, and Technology - June 2008
Athena Factor 2.0:Accelerating Female Talent in Science, Engineering & Technology - 2014
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If you think women in tech is just a pipeline problem, you haven’t been paying attention - 2015
Women in tech can get out of the mid-career limbo by being themselves–and using this one superpower to get ahead - 2023
Discussion of the same issues and strategies to work around them.
Everything I cited was found pretty easily with this search, and this was all in just the first couple pages of results (there was much, much more):
https://www.google.com/search?q=not+enouch+women+in+tech
These were fantastic comments. Thank you for providing all this information, along with citing sources.