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Israel reportedly proposed writing off Egypt's debts for hosting Gaza refugees
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Of course not. It's voluntary tourism and bomb-assisted suicide
I don't know if you're aware of the historical context regarding claims of ethnic cleansing in this conflict, Israel has shown a lot more restraint than Palestinian forces did when the shoe was on the other foot:
When Jerusalem and the West Bank were annexed by Jordan, (A belligerent fighting for the Palestinians against Israel in 1948,) it was immediately ethnically cleansed:
Today there are no Jewish citizens of Jordan.
Not that this makes reciprocity okay, but I think people should be aware there's there's a history of driving people off their land and destroying their structures by both parties in this conflict. I find the irony in these historical parallels to be incredible and can't help but notice it's curious that Israel is being held to a higher standard regarding civilian treatment by Palestinians than their own forces have exhibited.
Interesting context. Thanks for sharing:
They show restraint because they know good pr keeps the foreign investment flowing like a river. It’s so disingenuous to view this conflict in a vacuum with no larger geopolitical aspects to consider.
Sure they could act like Russia is in Ukraine but that’s not how you get your genocide while the world shrugs their shoulders. Don’t be so painfully naive.
Also it’s interesting that your recollection of events starts AFTER the Naqba where Israeli settlers drove Palestinians from their home. Everyone acting like there’s only one group driving hostilities always has an obnoxiously one sided understanding of the provocations that happened.
And as a final note, Israel is held to a higher standard because it hasn’t been rendered destitute by a stronger power. It’s the imbalance of power that makes the position popular. Just like cops should be held to a higher standard than citizens, Supreme Court judges over political pundits, and soldiers over non combatants. The stronger force has the most responsibility to go for peace because their power grants them the most ability to do so.
In what world does Israel show restraint, anyway? I don't see the levelling of Gaza city as "restraint".
I don't see the incarceration of 40% of Gaza's male population as "restraint".
I don't see Israel dropping more explosives on civilian population centers than the US did on Hiroshima as "restraint".
I don't see the systematic apartheid system of the West bank as "restraint".
I don't see the thousands of Israelis cheering as weapons declared illegal by the UN rain down on refugee camps as "restraint".
I don't see the leaders of Israel declaring every last man, woman, child in Gaza animals as "restraint".
This is bullshit, through and through.
It's also very telling that they have marked 100% of the Gaza population as refugees. There are only about 2 million people in Gaza all together and that is the amount they are trying to send to Egypt. That means that this is just Israel pushing to completely erase Palestine.
With white phosphorus and daily bombings on a city that has a population density greater than Chicago there doesn't look like there's any restraint only retribution.
Israel telling civilians to follow evacuation orders to go to "safe areas" that they then bomb is just par for the course for what they plan on doing.
The only fairness to the statement of Gazans being refugees is that most of them are, since most residents of Gaza and the West bank fled their original homes within the last 70 years.
Many of the oldest generation in Palestine are older than Israel itself.
On Reddit the libs think not nuking the entire place is "restraint"
held to higher standard? As if , people are justifying the destruction of synagogues in 1948?
What would be the normal standard then? You are saying it's justified as some kind of retribution? what nonsense is this
"Not that this makes reciprocity okay"
That's all you needed to say. The rest of your comment is just genocide apologetics.
If this is is your pearl-clutching response to the genocide of Gaza and the West bank, you have lost all sense of morality. The rape, slaughter, and total cleansing of the region in response to the people of Palestine fighting back against 75 years of colonization and Jewish extremism will never be forgotten, but your vain attempt to paint Israel as the MODERATE side in this will be forgotten along with the rest of the fascist filth that inherit this site.
My, what a balanced and nuanced opinion of the conflict that takes into account both perspectives and the history that led it to here. Anything short of picking up a pitchfork and joining the angry online mob is being, "fascist filth," now?
Feigning neutrality to a genocide and apartheid and painting the victims as "just as bad" because of their resistance is being fascist filth.
At least the people who support Israel out of ignorance have the balls to say they're on the side of the oppressor.
There's more to a conflict than who is the underdog. The side you seem to be supporting is explicitly genocidal.