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[-] IntrepidIceIgloo@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Biden is the most pro labor president in decades.

[-] UnspecificGravity@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 10 months ago

That, that's the exact problem he is pointing out.

[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

This is true and very welcome, but TBH that's a very low bar to clear and a long time coming. Up until the Biden admin started taking action, union protections have been steadily eroded since the Reagan admin. and with that, union membership went on a decades-long collapsing trend (and with it, so did labor's buying power).

The point to my above post was that it had to get very dark for a candidate like Trump to get any oxygen whatsoever, and if there's one way to drive despair in democracy, it's to make people that grew up expecting to live middle-class lives into poor people.

[-] NoneSoVile@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

The most pro labor president in decades being an union buster just reinforces the point.

[-] jasondj@ttrpg.network 4 points 10 months ago

Unions shouldn’t even be necessary. There are more voters than there are companies, by a very wide margin. The fact that enough people in the right places are able to be convinced to vote against improving their own conditions is really the problem.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 0 points 10 months ago

Unions are stronger than they've been in decades. Stop falling for clickbait and look at the actual results.

[-] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

Are they stronger due to changes by the current government? Or are they stronger because the economy is weaking and more and more people are rembering that forming/joining unions can help improve their working conditions?

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 10 months ago
[-] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

I don't disagree that that may help, it's hard to draw a direct link between the two with the data I can see.

I guess we'll have to wait for more data to come out.

The data I can find shows no improvement to union rates over Biden's term https://www.statista.com/statistics/195349/union-membership-rate-of-employees-in-the-us-since-2000/

[-] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Some unions are stronger. I'm in a union and I don't even have paid sick time after we just signed our first contract post covid. It makes me feel like it's kind of useless, but it's still better than no union. It's an extremely mediocre feeling.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 10 months ago

The major changes and gains have all happened in the last few months. It'll take some time for the effects to spread out.

[-] lateraltwo@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Those are decades of being wildly off course not just in labor but in environment, regulation, infrastructure, and innovation.

[-] Aleric@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

You're right, but I worry you're wrong about why you're right.

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