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[-] Cabunach@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

It's always masked as an "assault on truth" tho inn'it?

Regarding everything you listed? No.

Your comment is both a gross misrepresentation of US history and a simplification of a complex contested topic across the world.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Why don't you provide a counterargument instead of whining. The truth is fascists need an out group to maintain power. That outgroup is always picked from some type of marginalized group. The issue is republicans are running out of those out-groups more and more, but the strategy is virtually the same. If you go back in time and analyze the rhetoric it's virtually identical.

[-] Cabunach@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

The fact that you're equalizing US Republicans with fascists speaks magnitude of how shallow and undeveloped your position is.

And that's coming from me as a European, with absolutely no vested interest in US internal affairs.

[-] the_best_nerd@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

While I do believe the other commenter is making a gross simplification of the reasons the average conservative does what they do, there is genuine merit in recognizing the relationship between US Republicans (or conservative movements and groups in general) and facism. The ideological cudgels they use are based in the same foundations, utilize the same rhetoric, and are often intended by their progenators to reach the same end goals. If you are a European, you should have some interest in this - after all, the US of A is not the only country struggling with facist rhetoric being normalized in its culture.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks. I personally don't like throwing the "f" word around too much. It's been losing it's meaning in the past years. But we have to have a way to analyze the rhetoric through a past lense.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

The thing is, here in the US the transnational white power movement / white Christian nationalist movement features all the indicators of fascism (there are multiple lists. Choose one. I like Umberto Eco's). We could argue that it's incidentally fascist, that it's developed these features as symptoms in the process of coming out as an autocratic, identity-focused culture. But that doesn't change that it is dangerous and is stripping away civil rights from the people of the United States, and is engaging in efforts to neuter the already meager democratic features of the US, in order to hedge out the other party.

So whether or not the Republican party is a fascist party, whether or not some states have fascist elements, they are behaving in those ways historic fascist regimes have that cause harm. And as such it is doing harm to their respective publics.

And that means our attention should be focused not on what to call them, but how to stop the harm.

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