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It’s naive to say that kindness is going to stop violence from a group who in their founding charter call for the death of the opposing group. Hanas isn’t a good faith group and no amount of kindness will change that.
Any solution that will be durable requires that Hanna’s is not a part of it.
Sure, this is why the American Britain war is still waged today. It's also why France has been relentlessly attacking England. And obviously, the British bombing of Ireland is what ended the IRA.
Besides peace, genocide is the only way to end Hamas. And that's what you are cheering for. Israel is creating the next generation of terrorists by terrorizing the Palestinians.
Fundamentally it comes down to who is more at fault for the death of a human shield, the one who is using the human shield or the one who is attacking.
Clearly Hamas is more at fault. If you want peace tell Hamas to surrender and return the hostages.
How does "clearly" go against all societal norms in your mind? You seemingly know nothing about hostage negotiation, popular culture or just being human. Wolf Blitzer is more human than you. Think on that.
Can we refrain from calling people subhuman? It is really not a good look.
You think being less human than wolf blitzer makes you subhuman? Tell me what do you consider Palestinian civilians to justify their treatment? How does your heart not bleed for them compassionate one?
I think telling anybody that they know nothing about being human and saying some random person is more human than them is wrong, and given the context, frightening. The guy you said that to made two comments. Two. What did he say specifically that provoked such a response? I’d hope your heart bleeds for all innocent life lost. Palestine elected a group to lead them that specifically calls for the eradication of Jews, of course there’s going to be civilian deaths.
lol, sure you do. /s
He justified killing human shields, which is incontrovertibly incorrect.
You dont like it? Take it up with Obama: "Nobody’s hands are clean’: Obama urges reflection amid Israel-Hamas conflict"
How do you feel about killing hostages or human shields? Because I may also be questioning your humanity shortly based on that answer. If you think that response is worse than the stakes of whats being discussed I would say that's very telling.
Unironically, thanks Obama.
I’m not justifying either- I’m just saying that Hamas is the responsible party
If you say Hamas is responsible after Israel kills the hostage/civilian, then your bias is clear. Here, If you'd like to hear a different take try this Mother Jones article. I find the expert within to articulate this point well.
It’s an interesting article, but it’s not an exhaustive look at the situation. Look buddy- the article is from the point of an American, and proscribes American actions that should be taken. While that is interesting, it doesn’t touch nearly at all on what the current parties should do (vis a vis Hamas and Israel) and it doesn’t apply ANY scrutiny to Hamas or suggest any actions they should take.
It’s not that it’s not an insightful piece, but it’s POV is limited, and can’t be applied generally.
Hey, if that's your opinion of it then I won't fault you for it. Perhaps as an American it appeals more to me, as I still really enjoyed his perspective as a Palestine born and raised Christian who has spent his life advising and speaking on the topic.
Thanks for taking the chance and giving it a look. Not many people would, so please accept my apologies for the harsh words earlier.