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As I see it, this whole debacle is as much proof as I or anyone should need that DeSantis is unfit to be president.
When the state's largest employer, one who had supported him in the past on many issues, dared oppose him on one single issue that had taken the national stage (where they could do nothing other than oppose or be seen as discriminatory), he decided to punish them. Not in any way that was even a little bit effective, but in a punitive and immature and ineffective way that has replaced an effective good government agency with a politicized useless committee.
His actions say to me that he is neither a good representative of Florida's people, nor a wise leader, nor even an effective politician. He is a child who had a temper tantrum when he didn't get his way, so he tried to smash his favorite toy and didn't even break it.
We can do better. We have to do better than that, for the good of the nation.
Luckily (or unluckily) national Republican voters overwhelmingly prefer tRump
Unlucky. I think Biden is a better candidate than either of them, but I think the American people deserve to have two decent choices to pick from.
I have no particular love for the DNC either or many of the Democratic candidates we've seen, but at least they manage to more often than not put forward someone who would at least make a semi-functional administrator who tries to execute some sort of plan.
And Disney didn't even strongly oppose DeSantis. It was a wishy-washy sort of opposition and DeSantis responded to it with a "I'm going to destroy Disney!"
Yeah, right. People can have their quarrels with how Disney operates, but you can't deny that Disney is a powerhouse. You do NOT want to get on their legal team's bad side unless your case is VERY good.
Exactly. They are a huge company, they win when they fight, and they are also his state's biggest employer. Why pick a fight with them at all? It's stupid. There was no reason for it.
Hell, if DeSantis had two brain cells to rub together, he'd have met privately with Disney and said this is important to me, so oppose it publicly all you want just don't put any serious action into it, and we can pretend to fight but still be friends. That's a win-win, Disney gets the credit for being woke, he gets the credit for being anti-gay, they each play their roles. I'm pretty sure Disney would have gone for that. Shady as fuck of course, but far more effective for everybody than the childish tantrum he went off with.
Whoever sits in the oval office should be clever enough to see possibilities like that, not emotional to have a tantrum when he doesn't get his way.
If the christo-fascists were able to take over, this country would crash overnight. Whether they want to admit it or not, secular educated scientists, engineers etc create the wealth of this country. You cannot believe in fairy tales and be a world leader.
It's the same story over and over. Any government that prioritizes loyalty over competency will find themselves ruling over a disaster. It doesn't even really matter what the pet ideas are.
It is just better for everyone to hire and support the people who are most capable even if you disagree with them on every single issue.
Without a doubt. But I think a lot of the extreme social conservatives, both politician and populace, are like a dog chasing a truck- they wouldn't know what to do with it if they actually got what they are going after. Many of those positions are just based on a general sense of fear and dissatisfaction, the religious element is happy to play into that and a lot of conservative politicians are happy to play into both to get votes. It's a shitty strategy and it's bad for the country and making it mainstream is one of the worst things Karl Rove did to this country. It's like McCain legitimizing Sarah Palin, only worse.