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Ohio voters add abortion rights to state constitution
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It's also by a pretty decent margin so far:
With 59% reporting:
55.9% For
44.1% Against
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/07/us/elections/results-ohio-issue-1-abortion-rights.html
Edit:
56.6% For
43.4% against
I don't live in Ohio, but I'm right on the state border. So many "vote no on issue 1" signs around here. I was worried that it would fail. Glad to see otherwise.
It's been polling consistently strong. Those signs you were seeing on the border are not representative of where the majority of Ohioans live.
What people need to take away from this is that the majority very often want things that are denied to them by a minority of voters who have been given disproportionate control.
What were seeing is direct democracy in action. No gerrymandered districts, just the people voting for what they fuck they want, and majority rules.
If we had more of that (not full direct democracy 24/7 but more than we have now) you'd see a lot more popular things actually get done.
There's danger there, populism is a double edged sword, but the opposite extreme is what we have now: a majority of people consistently and perpetually having their will undermined by a minority entirely because of their zip code, while the Republicans the minority gives power to continue to make this even worse.
When you actually look at national polling, the majority of people want a lot of things that have no hope of ever making it through Congress any time in the near future because of obstruction from red states that get disproportionate power entirely because of geography. This is untenable.
Those last 2 paragraphs are the sanest thing I'm likely to read all day.
My polling place is right next to a sizeable Catholic church, and the amount of "vote no on issue 1" signs I saw in front of it was almost comical
Drop off a donation box of wire coathangers.
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Did some of those signs "mysteriously" break?
I drive primarily in the country and it's been interesting to see how deep the divide is between rural and urban areas.
Maga flags above American flags everywhere. No on issue 1 signs everywhere. A couple handmade signs who's message is summed up with "keep potheads out of Ohio".
Four houses in particular amuse me when I pass. Two had one sign out from each, then the NO sign multiplied into 3,spaced along the road. So YES put up 3 more signs for 4 total. NO put out a few more scattered around the yard, and in response YES put up what looks like 30 or so randomly scattered over the yard.
Similarly in a different county, a YES sign went up, and in response the neighbor put up a NO THINK OF THE CHILDREN sign big enough to block the YES SIGN. Maybe 6ft wide. So YES put up a 10ft tall banner mounted on a 20ft scaffold in the middle of the yard with bullet points about the issue under the VOTE YES stuff.
Honestly given a couple of the areas I've been through, I wouldn't put it past some neighbors to put a brick through someone's window or a bullet through a wall just for having the YES sign out front.
That's a hell of a margin!