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I mean, that's kind of the biggest complaint about Biden and the whole moderate wing...
They act like nothing ever changes and they don't have to react. There's a shit ton of urgent problems they just won't address because they don't give a shit.
They don't honestly have any goals or things to accomplish other than being elected.
So why are we still electing them? The only positive to electing a moderate Dem is a Republican doesn't win. It's why America has been steadily backsliding for decades, and if we keep electing them it'll keep happening.
Best case scenario, politicians like Biden are a "pause button" on America's collapse. And for the people who still have decades of life left, that's just not good enough for us.
That's why I voted Biden. I voted Biden in the general election (but voted Bernie in the primaries) because I wanted everyone out of the nightmare circus that was Trump and the Republican regime. A regime we haven't seen so devastatingly retarded since the Bush era. Right now, it's way too dangerous to allow Republicans total control. It's like, look what they do when they're in Congress. Look what they do when they control state governments. They are totally in another realm of reality far off from what we classify as normal today.
I wish we would've ended up with Andrew Yang at least if we couldn't have Bernie. I like Democrats because with Democrats, the worse that they can do is just make small mistakes but mistakes that can be repaired. If we elect a single Republican, that's 4 more years of irreversible damage we're not going to recover from and it'll take over maybe several terms of presidencies to fix maybe a handful of problems.
The Trump administration made Bush II look like FDR
I mean, so am I.
But I also don't get drunk at bars and then drive home. Lots of other people don't make that choice, even though it seems super obvious.
We can pretend those people don't exist, we can complain that they should know better, but they're still going to make the same decision if we do either of those things.
So why not try running candidates that will actually try to do the right thing once elected instead demanding they vote for whoever is less terrible?
For some people, voting is a huge hassle and positive motivation works better than the threat of a potential negative
I think the larger issue here is that Democrats have to appease the Republican voters which have a large voice due to the current electoral college system. I like the idea of the electoral college but the implementation leaves room for improvement.
The time to really push to make changes is early in the cycle. Right after the presidential election people who are unhappy with the current system need to go hard to make the changes they want to see in their party. Not just be happy that there's no Republican to ruin everything.
Am I happy with everything Biden has done? No of course not. But I'm just happy I'm not waking up to the President tweeting incoherent ramblings at 3AM provoking WWIII. I have confidence that Biden will at least attempt to do the right thing while Republicans will do what's best at growing their wallet and not caring about anything else.
From out here, we don't follow US politics all that closely. But it seems that the extremes (republicans and religious, they go hand in hand I suppose) in your country are so wild that it's probably also quite difficult to get anything done.
What exactly do you mean?
Like, the far right obviously.
But whose the other extreme? The progressives wanting the same shit every other developed country already has?
Since you said "from out here" I'm curious what you meant.
You have a choice of extremes, nazis, christian extremists, republicans that want to destroy the planet "just because", a variety of other lesser far rightwing political subgroups... And no, progressives aren't a part of it. As elsewhere, the troublesome ones are all on the right.
I'm not in the US, I don't know the intimate details of what goes on over there.
"Out here" is the wasteland that isn't the US, as seen by US people.
I think I see the confusion. Nazis and Christian extremists are the modern Republican party. The only two parties we can support are rightwing extremists or milquetoast centrists. They're a united front of crazy.