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this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2023
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In many countries people don't even need cars, the main problem you are unconsciously describing is the car obsessed US american traffic infrastructure. Of course it sucks when someone steals your car but that is still an incredibly tiny crime compared to what millionaires and billionaires are doing to millions of people and the ecosystem everyday.
I think both of you are arguing about different things. You are saying it's a tiny crime relative to what billionaires do, which is true. But the other person is saying it is absolutely not a tiny crime from the perspective of a victim whose livelihood depends on their car being available. Yes it is a class war, but at the same time it doesn't mean we can't denounce a "petty" crime like stealing a car just because both parties are in the same economic class.
No argument from me there, I agree with all of what you just wrote. I just meant to point out the ratio of stealing a car vs stealing from millions of workers by exploiting them every day.
YOU were the one who said it was Detroit? If so these people need their cars. Other than in the main part of the city, you can't get to anything without a car. Your original comment made a valid point but beyond that you just refuse to accept nuance. It doesn't matter that America would be better without the car infrastructure when that's not the reality we live in.
But I said:
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Even here in car-centric Atlanta, I'd be more upset if somebody stole my cargo e-bike than if they stole one of my cars.
Naturally, source: I´m a bike mechanic specialized in cargo bikes. I´d choose a Bullit or an Omnium before a car anytime :)
Mine's just a relatively-humble Lectric XPedition, but I still love the thing more than any of my cars (which is saying a lot, 'cause I'm also a car enthusiast). It would also immediately impact my daily routine in a way that theft of one of my rarely-driven project cars would not.
(The other issue is that I ought to go check and adjust my insurance policies, because I suspect my out-of-pocket replacement costs would be higher for the bike than the cars.)