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[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 114 points 8 months ago

Lot of these comments are weird.

I'm fortunate enough where if someone stole my car, its not the end of the world. I work from home. I can afford to pay for Uber or public transportation. My life is mildly inconvenienced.

Where my buddy works two minwage jobs. Steal his car, and he's going to struggle a lot. I helped him when his car was in the shop, and he was a mess.

And yet commenters here are going, "Poor car thief what a victim of circumstance." While also totally cool with him fucking over others? Your empathy is fascinating.

[-] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 63 points 8 months ago

The criminals here are the billionaires who created a system where you friend has to work TWO minimum wages job to barely get by. Don't defend a broken system, eat the billionaires!

[-] MooseLad@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

The criminals are also the car thieves, making their own class struggle more.

[-] David_Eight@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

Totally, he should of stole a nicer car SMH

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Vote YES for banning immobilizers in luxury vehicles so they are easier to steal

[-] SkinnyTimmy@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

Unironically this

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

If he steals an expensive car it's alright though

[-] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I've stuggeled plenty in my life as well, yet I've never stolen anything. I hate billionaires and I also hate car thiefs. Don't be a douche.

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[-] Rukmer@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Both can be true. People see his humanity, he's not willing to put this baby in a bad position. He may very well be a victim of circumstance. But for all anyone knows, the people he stole the car from could have replied on it just as much. I know I'd never financially recover from that and I wouldn't have a lot of empathy for the thief, but that doesn't mean the situation isn't nuanced.

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

he's not willing to put this baby in a bad position

Probably because he didn't want to get charged with child kidnapping. How much worse did this child's life get because their parent's car got stolen? "Sorry son, we had $8,000 started for you to go to college but someone stole our car when you were younger and that's not something that you can bounce back from in this economy so you've got to take out loans." Fuck him and fuck people who steal from their own class.

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[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

I make decent salary and recently my old car was hit while parked and the insurance totaled it. Those thieves paid me the bluebook, which is about 2/3rds of what it actually would cost to buy that car again, if I could even find one similar. I could likely wait a month and buy back my own car after repairs for that new price too. The insurance company probably made money out of the deal.

I figure the payout must be about the same for having the car stolen. So honestly, if anyone wants to steal my car just let me know and after you hock it for parts or whatever we can split the proceeds and the insurance payout and maybe we'll both get ahead.

But barring the magical coming of universal solidarity, I can confirm that it sucks ass to lose your car even for the relatively stable and well off.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Sounds like you got robbed twice. 💀

[-] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 8 months ago

I'm just pro-theft!

[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago

Yeah we used to hang horse thieves for a reason. Losing transportation can be a family destroying event, or even a death sentence.

There was a passage near the end of The Road where the child calls the father a murderer for robbing someone, but the father said he didn’t actually kill the man.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Yeah the thief is clearly an awful person. The parents are also bad. The only character in this story that deserves empathy is the baby as he will be doubly harmed by having awful parents who just suffered a dire financial set back because of the actions of the thief.

That being said it is easy to commend the thief, even though we shouldn't, because we automatically have that empathy for the baby and disdain for the parents for being so irresponsible.

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[-] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I think people like his chaotic evil personality.

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[-] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Yeah but I'm guessing your buddy never left a baby alone in his car

[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 9 points 8 months ago

I have to agree here. Its true that the person is/was struggling, but its action has made others struggle too. My post of course was aiming only on the act of returning the child.

[-] VicentAdultman@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

If someone steals my yet to be paid in the next 2 years car, I am going bankrupt for the next 7 years. I plan to sell it once it gets paid, then buy another one. If it gets stolen, I have no perspective and financial conditions in buying a car again just by saving money.

[-] cashew@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Car dependance is a hell of a drug. The fact that urban design can put people in poverty like that is a wild idea.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

That’s what happens when you have the fourth largest land mass in the world and awful public transportation (mostly because of car company lobbying)

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[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 50 points 8 months ago

professional have standards

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[-] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 36 points 8 months ago

Most people who do small crime like this do so because of the material pressure capitalism puts on them. The actual evil criminals are the few privileged ultra rich people who steal unbelievable amounts from the public despite already having way more than enough, like Trump, Bezos and Musk for example. Those are the real criminals.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago

When my parents got their car stolen, the robber used it for a joy ride and proceeded to crash it. I don't disagree that there are other places to put blame, but car theft I don't think is as financially motivated as something like stealing food or catalytic converters.

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[-] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

M8 this is grand theft and while i agree in that fuck ultra rich people, this has nothing to do with that, the thief returned the child so that he wouldnt be hunted down for child kidnapping and car stealing is probably the thiefs lifestyle rather than a temporary hustle forced by rampant capitalism.

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[-] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 35 points 8 months ago

"I'm a car thief and I think you're garbage. Maybe reevaluate your fucking trash lives."

[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

Sounds like he’s not a bad dude just a guy who’s struggling in life and doesn’t know what else to resort to.

[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 13 points 8 months ago

i actually stole this image from Reddit r/madlads

A lot of people are agreeing that he did it only so he doesn't take kidnapping charges

honestly very sad way to see the thing

[-] noride@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

To be fair, kidnapping doesn't have a minimum duration before it becomes legally applicable; he already kidnapped the child the first time he drove off.

E. If it wasn't clear, my logic above is why I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt on that one small facet of this interaction.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My understanding of US Law isn't great, so take this with a grain of salt, but for a kidnapping to occur doesn't the accused have to do it willfully and wrongfully?

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 8 months ago

from what i've learned there are 2 outcomes: they actually prosecute according to the law in which case intent is usually very important, or they prosecute according to who has more money in which case all that matters is what shit they can get away with sentencing him for.

[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah. Makes the idea he did it for that actually pretty stupid

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[-] Kolrami@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I'd gamble it's because being a thief is different from baby kidnapper. Not all criminals are the same. I don't expect a jaywalker to murder me.

That part doesn't seem that sad. It seems normal.

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[-] Jode@midwest.social 30 points 8 months ago

This sounds like one of those mini plot lines in "Atlanta"

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[-] cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz 23 points 8 months ago

You wouldn't download a baby

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, because they're ugly, they smell, and they scream.

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[-] BingoBangoBongo@midwest.social 12 points 8 months ago

Hate to be that guy, but that's not what happened.

[-] StereoTrespasser@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

C'mon, he's obviously a nice guy who just needed a car because capitalism, and when he realized there was a baby inside he breastfed it, sang it a lullaby, and returned it to the parents. He now visits the family every Christmas and they laugh and laugh at how they all met.

[-] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

I dont know wy you getting downvoted thats exactly what happened.

I konow since i was the baby.

[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

can confirm too, i was the oxygen in the air in that moment

[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 8 points 8 months ago

Yeah, i know that. I'll correct it myself too.

The baby was not returned to the family, but was dropped off to a nearby shop demanding the owner to call 911 for it. Then drove off.

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