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[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 84 points 9 months ago

Not a tankie, but the USSR had mostly solved this problem, despite all its other issues. There did exist some homelessness, but nowhere near the extent of current USA.

[-] pelya@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Sure, you could get a piece of land in Siberian tundra at any time, I would not call that housing.

Moving to a city was way more complicated than in capitalist US. You could not simply buy an apartment. You had to be allocated an apartment by the government. And you needed connections for that. Or bribes. Ideally both. If you think your local rabid Republicans do not care for little wage slave men, you never experienced USSR, it was like that but 100x worse.

[-] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 9 months ago

If you got a new job in a different city, they gave you a new flat, at least in Romania

[-] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago

Seems like you have to have strong connections through networking. Sounds familiar.

[-] pelya@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

Yup. And networking would inevitably involve vodka. All major decisions would eventually involve vodka in USSR.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

One of Stalin's failures almost any tankie won't deny.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Vodka had been linked to the Russian economy under multiple Czars. I'm not sure that Stalin could have separated the two even if he had wanted to. Admittedly it doesn't appear that he wanted to.

I'm pretty sure that the USSR was screwed the moment that Lenin returned from exile in Germany, or when Wilson was elected. Take your pick.

The Menchaviks would have been a better government.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The mechaviks literally wanted to continue ww1 and have a psuedo democracy where the bourgeoisie were literally guaranteed a majority of seats, wtf are you talking about?

[-] juchenecromancer@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Bro got his history lessons from OverSimplified

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

I wasn't aware of that. I was under the impression they were less extreme than the Bolsheviks, and didn't want to execute everyone that wasn't a hard core Bolshevik

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They were more extreme than the bolseviks but less extreme than the monarchists, they were just on the side of capitalists so were painted with a nicer brush by capitalist historians

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Gotcha, that explains why the sources I have read, showed them as favorable to the Menchaviks

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 months ago

I just find it ironic that Stalin was everything that the party worried about Trotsky becoming.

[-] Mercival@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

Well, I'm from a post-USSR country and a substantial part of this was the criminalization of homelessness. Can't have homeless people, if you lock them up (be it in a prison or asylum).

Then again, just about anyone, who did not conform to the party's message got locked up. Getting your place bugged at the slightest hint you might be up to something disagreeable and all that good stuff. The secret police could disappear and or beat you up without any real justification.

I hate late-stage capitalism as much as you, but coming from a country that's been through this, I am extremely reluctant to give the rotten and frankly repugnant USSR regime any credit.

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