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[-] laxsill@infosec.pub 133 points 9 months ago

Their policy should just be to reset the password immediately and have the user set a new one. This is one hell of a risk.

[-] Z4rK@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

I still can’t believe American banks lets you login with just username / password? Surely there is some id check or at least two factors involved?

[-] icanwatermyplants@reddthat.com 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nope, several years ago someone complained that their steam account has better protection then their bank account. We're now in 2023 and that statement still holds. It's quite scary really. Bank websites that heavily rely on third party scripts ,"MFA" logins based on something you know and something you know. Account verification question based on code words or security questions based on public information. Worst of all, the ignorance of it all. "We got hacked, here have a identity protection bandage, comes with an automatic subscription after several years".

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I wanted to use a 2FA device for my banking accounts and no bank that I have spoken to would allow it. I'd had a breach on one account because my information had been leaked from several different places including the federal government and a credit agency and as a result the person used my leaked information to validate their way into my checking account. At that point they let me set up a pass phrase and a couple of other random safeguards. This was all well and good but it didn't make me feel safer than having that account protected by a physical 2FA device. I was also given more free credit monitoring (which I've gotten like 4 or 5 times in the last 10 years or so). Still bugs me to this day.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bank of America has two factor and optional 3 three factor integration, what are you talking about?

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/12/how-enable-two-factor-authentication-bank-america

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Bank of America is not one of the banks I talked to because I will never bank with them again. I was 18 and they sent me (unsolicited) a credit card when I opened my first checking account. It had A 35% interest rate.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Commerce, Midwest, citi, and most if not all state banks have 2fa at this point.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

2fa with a physical key? Also it's been more than a year since I last checked at all.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Via third party integration yes. Outside of that is user/password then they send a code to your email or phone you enter that and it bumps you to third party if you've requested it.

https://www.bankofamerica.com/security-center/online-mobile-banking-privacy/usb-security-key/

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Thank you. I actually really appreciate this information.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

No problem.

Iirc any bank that does European transactions is obligated to offer it so they can conduct business with European banks.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

35% interest rate

Per year? Rookie numbers, imagine that per month

[-] icanwatermyplants@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago

Here's the silly thing - most other countries have had a form of 2FA for decades. Yes, decades. Some of the earliest ones used to sent you a printed list of codes and asked you a random code from that list. This was before the Internet even when you had to use a modem to dial in to a bank to transmit your transactions.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Yes, they do. Wtf is even happening in this thread.

[-] icanwatermyplants@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

There are some that do, true, but also a boatload that don't. In my personal experience, most don't.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Most do, unless they're some small town bank. That could be the difference, perhaps.

[-] icanwatermyplants@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago

Most interesting, I checked 2fa.directory and lo and behold, one of them shows that use 2fa! It's the dinky SMS one, but still better then none! Sad part is that a) they never informed me and b) it's completely optional also c) this must be something from the last year or so as I'm one of those people who actively gives feedback

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Hey, that's great. I'm glad you looked into it, they really should have let you know.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Chase is a small town bank? TIL

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

?

2-step verification requires you to enter a unique code every time you sign in to Chase.com on a browser. This helps ensure that it's actually you and not someone suspicious.

https://www.chase.com/digital/resources/privacy-security/security/how-you-can-protect

[-] Adramis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Schwab has 2fa, and isn't Schwab literally owned by Chase? Wtf

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

2-step verification requires you to enter a unique code every time you sign in to Chase.com on a browser. This helps ensure that it's actually you and not someone suspicious.

https://www.chase.com/digital/resources/privacy-security/security/how-you-can-protect

I don't know what they're talking about.

[-] Z4rK@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

No wonder all the finance and budget apps primarily prefers integrating with American banks!

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