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submitted 10 months ago by 0x815@feddit.de to c/news@beehaw.org

The right-wing leader appeared on multiple cable news shows to speak on the current state Israel’s monthlong siege on Gaza, which human rights experts have warned amount to ethnic cleansing and war crimes.

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Türk accused both Israel and Hamas of war crimes, and said that the only solution to the violence is to end the Israeli occupation and allow Palestinians the right to self-determination.

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[-] goferking0 28 points 10 months ago

Makes sense when they only think one side are actually human :(

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

Hamas & Likud think that way.

Ironically the party folks killed on Oct 7th would have been anti-Likud types.

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 5 points 10 months ago

Bibi reduced military protection in the south to punish the kibbutz dwellers, and to focus on war-criming the West Bank. Either he figured his trunks full of cash would keep Hamas in line, or he just really didn't care what happened down there.

He also clearly gives zero shits about the hostages. Hamas wanted to negotiate for their release at the beginning of the conflict, but he decided he would rather war-crime Gaza instead.

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

What deal were Hamas offering at the start?

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

According to three sources familiar with the talks, the original deal on the table involved freeing children, women and elderly and sick people in exchange for a five-day ceasefire, but the Israeli government turned this down and demonstrated its rejection with the launch of the ground offensive.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/09/netanyahu-rejected-ceasefire-for-hostages-deal-in-gaza-sources-say

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

Exchanging them for Palestinian hostages that Israel is holding.

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Israel could have gone along with this and still attacked Hamas but I suppose they knew there would be Palestinian civilians killed so they wanted the excuse of "But muh hostages!".

I predict the swap will be done now that Israel needs no more excuse. Hamas leaders will be able to (or allowed to) flee, just like Arafat fled the Beirut siege, calling it a victory.

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

Netanyahu is going to bomb the hostages and then blame Hamas, saying they were used as human shields, just like he's been doing with Palestinian civilians. 200 Israeli hostages "murdered by Hamas (using Israeli bombs)" is more useful politically to his war-machine than 200 live hostages.

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

I doubt it. He is fighting for political survival. He is probably a goner regardless but even he realises that to do what you suggest would be political suicide. He only cares about himself.

Are you by any chance in denial of the PIJ missile which misfired into the hospital carpark a couple of weeks back? The one which Hamas lied was a direct hit by Israeli bombs killing 500?

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Are you by any chance in denial of the PIJ missile which misfired into the hospital carpark a couple of weeks back? The one which Hamas lied was a direct hit by Israeli bombs killing 500?

No, I think it is likely that it was a rocket that misfired. Israel has been responsible for all the intentional bombs hitting hospitals, schools, places of worship, etc though, so I'm not sure what significance you are attributing to what someone believes about the one unintentional one?

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sorry. I misjudged you. Been on Reddit too long. No room for nuance there.

The significance is that media is still often relaying Hamas claims as if fact and you might have been relying wholly on such reports.

That hospital incident was clearly Hamas bs from the outset - no photos, a video of the carpark leaked within 24 hours, Al Jazeera themselves unwittingly streamed live footage of the misfiring rocket.

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

Hamas's leaders aren't in Gaza, they're in Qatar living off money funneled through the Israeli government.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/16/how-benjamin-netanyahu-empowered-hamas/

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

makes sense since likud and bibi funded hamas

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