Where the evil villain will go on a rant about how society is cruel and needs to change and that they're going to change it. The hero opposes this for like zero reasons and somehow we're supposed to be on the hero's side.

Are we really supposed to believe that our society doesn't need to change? Are we supposed to cheer for the status quo even when it's shown to be terrible?

I also hate the sympathetic villain trope where it's shown that the villain is the product of abuse and yet their want for revenge is still treated as unjustified.

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[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think the funniest variation of that was in Arkham City where the villains' plan is just "let's make an open air prison and then kill everyone in it to inspire a wave of fascist reaction across the world!" and Batman's stance is "well I agree with your tough-on-crime stance but I think your methods are too extreme!" At least in that Batman was trying to change the status quo of Gotham having an open air prison that it was actively airstriking by trying to make it stop having an open air prison that it was actively airstriking.

still somehow a better plot than Arkham Knight's

where Venezuela helps Robin and Poison Ivy invade Gotham with robot tanks or some shit for no reason and Batman thinks that "Joker" is a communicable disease that he's caught by drinking the Joker's blood or some shit. All while zooming around in a rocket car on the sidewalk like it's GTA, except it electrocutes people it hits so they're actually totally fine, trust us that's how electricity works isn't it?