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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by TendieMaster69@midwest.social to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world

"When you use Signal, your data is stored in encrypted form on your devices. The only information that is stored on the Signal servers for each account is the phone number you registered with, the date and time you joined the service, and the date you last logged on."

This isn't an ad, I wasn't paid for this post. Just to clear the air: fuck facebook, fuck elon musk and twitter, fuck anyone who thinks this is a paid advertisement. I wish I was paid for this shit, I just wanted to spread the word. Thank you. ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ‘

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[-] 1337admin@1337lemmy.com 18 points 1 year ago

Since we're all using Lemmy, an open source, decentralized, self hostable platform, wouldn't suggesting Matrix make much more sense?

I host a Matrix and Lemmy server. Even if Signal is completely trustworthy now, will it always be? It isn't my server and it's a single point of attack for anybody (including governments) to insert (or demand) a backdoor.

[-] cocolopez@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I still try to understand Matrix.

[-] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I feel like there is a joke somewhere in here ๐Ÿ˜‚

[-] cocolopez@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No pun intended. I tried a couple of times but I can't figured it out.

[-] cocolopez@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No pun intended. I tried a couple of times but I can't figured it out.

[-] cocolopez@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No pun intended. I tried a couple of times but I can't figured it out.

[-] cocolopez@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No pun intended. I tried a couple of times but I can't figured it out.

[-] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like there is a joke somewhere in here ๐Ÿ˜‚

[-] oldfart@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

FTFY:

Since we're all using Lemmy, an open source, decentralized, self hostable platform, wouldn't suggesting XMPP make much more sense?

[-] flop@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Why xmpp over matrix? Seems generally like older tech that doesn't have modern chat features.

[-] oldfart@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

What unique features does Matrix have? All it brings to the table is segmentation in the FOSS communuty. Also its developers' background is sketchy as hell.

[-] flop@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Googling a little, I might be misremembering limitations from a long time ago or from older IRC versions or something. Does it have async multi user rooms, reactions, and is it federated so I can stick to one log in? Not trying to be adversarial at all, these are just what I would miss if I didn't use matrix and I haven't really looked at xmpp since AIM days lol.

[-] oldfart@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Reactions are a work in progress and one major client (Conversations) does not have them yet, the others do. It has been federated since early 2000s and had multi user rooms with history for at least the last decade that i've been using it.

Try it out one day, even if you continue to use Matrix day to day.

[-] Rookiewtf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] 1337admin@1337lemmy.com 10 points 1 year ago

It may not be perfect yet, but ill take the superior design approach (decentralized and self hostable) any day. The details can be improved over time. Matrix can improve its metadata handling, signal will never be decentralized and self hostable.

On top of that, if you get your friends and family on your instance like I have, the metadata isnt even a problem since everything is contained on my server anyway.

[-] Max_UL@lemmy.pro 3 points 1 year ago

Weโ€™re using it and itโ€™s fast and the Element client is great.

[-] Rookiewtf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

See how fast it is on a server with a lot of people and messages, it gets slower and slower over time

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