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[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 47 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Good luck on that.

The EU would make demands so steep, crawling on broken glass would be mild.

Brexit was a catastrophic diplomatic event, bridled with ridiculous underhanded manouvers from the UK to try and sneak away from demands.

I am not against the UK rejoining the EU but as a common member, with all the demands required to join like any other country.

[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think it's misleading to say that EU would make steep demands, because it gives the impression that EU would deliberately try to make UK joining difficult. UK shouldn't get any special treatment (good or bad) and they should get the exact same standard joining procedure all other countries would get. The standard procedure is already going to have their panties twisted, no need to give them a legitimation reason to complain.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 13 points 8 months ago

Let's keep in mind the UK dove into directions so divergent from the EU, on such trivial matters, just to face those demands - so trivial it will feel as petty - will make the UK negotiators twist their hands in anger.

And to crown it all, just the demand to drop the pound would be nurderous to the british pride.

[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Absolutely. I think we're on the same page that the process of joining is going to have the UK complain and whine at every step. My point was rather that saying EU would make demands so steep could be taken as EU wanting make an example out of UK. That's not really what we should want because we know the UK is going to complain and treating them harsher than any other applicant would somewhat legitimize their grievances. I think a better wording for "EU would make demands so steep, crawling on..." would be "UK will think the demands are so steep, crawling on glass..." because then instead of seeming like EU is being unfair it's going to seem like UK simply doesn't want to play ball (which is how we have ended up in this situation in the first place).

[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 2 points 8 months ago
[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

Don't care. It stays as a lasting testament of my sausage fingers.

[-] NIB@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It would not be that bad. The EU wants the UK back not only because both sides would greatly economically benefit from this but because one of the main reasons for EU's existence is the continuation of peace in Europe. So the UK must be part of the EU.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 months ago

I am not again the UK rejoining the EU.

My country has had the country as an ally for centuries and we went to great lenghts to facilitate the movements of brits to and from but the UK needs to recognize it is not more than any other member of the EU.

That stupid and hollow pride needs to come down and mistakes have to be recognized.

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