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Correct me if I'm wrong. I read ActivityPub standards and dug a little into lemmy sources to understand how federation works. And I'm a bit disappointed. Every server just has a cache and the ability to fetch something from another known server. So if you start your own instance, there is no profit for the whole network until you have a significant piece of auditory (e.g. private instances or servers with no users). Are there any "balancers" to utilize these empty instances? Should we promote (or create in the first place) a way how to passively help lemmy with such fast growth?

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[-] halictuz@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

About Matrix and federation/rooms etc.

I know. My point was more like, what if matrix.org goes down tomorrow? My understanding is, nobody can login into their matrix.org accounts, right? But rooms and their admins are tied to that matrix.org account? So even if rooms will still be there because of alias/replicated to other federated instances. Who is gonna maintain it and moderate it then? My guess is, bigger rooms have set admins from different instances because of that?

I mean, I am not so much into matrix, I am more of a XMPP person. I hosted a public matrix synapse. And tbh, it was a real PITA compared to xmpp hosting. But ok, XMPP has other issues, too. So there is that.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Trying to host my own Synapse server once for my own use and seeing how it was chewing through every bit of resources on my server while providing an unusable slow experience has pretty much ruined Matrix as a whole for me as well as contributed significantly to my dislike for Python.

[-] sam@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

How long ago was this? Its in a much better state now.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

A few years ago (3-4 maybe). It wasn't just a bit slow either, more like the server using the full 16 gigabytes of RAM and constantly at 100% CPU and channels not even being usable to read them 20 minutes after joining.

[-] sam@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That was my experience as well, and I completely wrote it off. After having gone back to it, and after watching the matrix 2.0 preview on youtube, things are a lot better than they were, and looking a lot better in the future.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe I will give it another try one of these days when I have some time.

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